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Opening comments: More at the end.
Well - it is official now - the Mayor of Mississauga, Hazel McCallion says this Inquiry is about the effort to prevent her from being re-elected or a political means to an end - hers!
CENSORSHIP !!
You will note that most of the comments listed below do not exist on the Mississauga (Missing) News web-site - they were removed by Hazel "Friends" / supporters! By the MEANS noted.
To the main Judicial Inquiry page - to the Hazel McCallion page.
Mississauga News - Apr. 30, 2010 - By Louie Rosella - lrosella@mississauga.net
Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer
Inquiring mind.
A lawyer for Mayor Hazel McCallion argued today that the judicial inquiry should be postponed
if it's going to run into the municipal election period because it will likely hurt her campaign. File photo
Mayor Hazel McCallion wants the Mississauga judicial inquiry to be postponed if it's going to run into the municipal election period because it will likely hurt her campaign, her lawyer argued today.
Elizabeth McIntyre asked inquiry commissioner Douglas Cunningham to delay the inquiry if hearings run into September and October. The municipal election is slated for Oct. 25.
"It's unfair to put the mayor in the inquiry proceedings during the campaign period...having her testifying and being under cross-examination during the election period," she said. "This is unfair to someone who has devoted so many years to public service." McIntyre said the "smoke and dust thrown up" by the media's coverage of the inquiry may cast her client in a negative light at a time when she's trying to get re-elected.
News coverage of such proceedings tends to focus on issues that "find fault" in those involved, she added.
"It's your findings of fact at the end of the day that are important," McIntyre told the commissioner.
Commission counsel William McDowell balked at McIntyre's request.
"The suggestion that the mayor's campaigning needs somehow trump the needs of this inquiry" is concerning, McDowell said. "She will be treated with immaculate fairness."
Cunningham said McIntyre's concerns are "somewhat premature" and that he hopes the inquiry will be over by the end of August.
Originally slated to begin May 17, the inquiry now likely won't start until May 25.
The $2.5-million inquiry will, among other undertakings, probe conflict of interest allegations against the mayor and the role of her son, Peter McCallion, in a $14.4-million failed bid by World Class Developments Ltd. (WCD) to purchase a 3.5-hectare parcel of land owned by the Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System (OMERS).
WCD hoped to build a hotel and convention centre on the land in the City Centre. The deal eventually fell through. (The deal involved private meetings between Mayor McCallion, the developer and OMERS, while zoning of the land was still before Council. OMERS subsequently sold the land to the City of Mississauga, which, in turn, leased it to Sheridan College.)
McDowell said his legal team has already reviewed 16,000 documents, and is waiting for thousands more from the City and OMERS, and interviewed 30 witnesses.
Material from the mayor's office has yet to be received by McDowell and, "that, I confess, is slowing us up a bit."
Comments by others - 305 (losing count) - to this web-page at time of posting;
Uatu
May 9, 2010 11:14 PM
@Muse: Nothing new here [Repost 1 due to censor trolls]
It's just distraction from the real issues and it's been happening for a long time. ConcernedResident and Mantis are incapable of creating such a strategy, but they don't need to. They can just mindlessly mimic what has been going on for many years now. Both left and right engage in this, but it is far more heavily exploited by the right. They rage and shout, they conduct personal attacks, they throw in non sequiturs and distractions, and when those don't work they blatantly lie. Actually they lie even when the other tactics are working. They can't help themselves because they are incapable of detecting truth. Admitting truths that conflict with their dearly held beliefs just isn't possible. Anyone who disagrees is insignificant, delusional, and tinfoil hat crazy, and their opinions must not be tolerated. This justifies censor trolling and disagreement with simple proven facts. Q.E.D.
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Uatu
May 9, 2010 11:14 PM
Glad teh same is capturing all this [Repost 1 due to censor trolls]
Mantis isn't even pretending not to be a censor troll any more. He's declared himself the watchdog for the majority against the "insignificant minority" and vows that "we will bring BALANCE to these pages and we will ensure that the comments truly reflect the opinion o--" Oops, ran a little long there O Voice of the Significant Majority. These are more classic signs of the Right Wing Authoritarian: he's convinced he is right and represents everyone except the "Mississauga hating, idiot leftist Barberite troglodytes," and that it is perfectly justified to censor any opinion that doesn't agree with his. That's Mantis balance, folks, and I didn't make this up. He said so himself.
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Uatu
May 9, 2010 11:14 PM
Thanks all teh same! [Repost 1 due to censor trolls]
A neat service. We'll see how long it takes the censor trolls to go on the "offensive". [Turns out the answer is, "not very long", hee hee!]
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Uatu
May 9, 2010 11:02 PM
I said something about censoring
Of course Mantis insists it's not censoring, he's just "balancing opinion"! Mantis, I am perfectly aware you think my comments are always offensive. I've had simple statements of fact blown away over and over. If you censor trolls were selective it would be harder for me to show what fascists you are, but you make it soooo easy. I know this will be marked offensive too. I love it!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 10:34 PM
@ Mantis Have you read the court transcript at: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc
Or watched the two videos of court hearing featuring the Mayor's lawyer at: http://tinyurl.com/2dgzsjg and the second at: http://tinyurl.com/28pw6at so that you can offer informed opinions?
Mantis
May 9, 2010 10:05 PM
@Uatu
Who said anything about censoring? I don't mark any posts as "offensive" unless they are offensive. Many of your posts - maybe even most are extremely offensive.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 9:43 PM
So Citizens can Decide for themselves. Complete video of the Mayor's Lawyer
I've just uploaded Elizabeth McIntyre's "Inquiry will hurt campaign" presentation up to YouTube. Because YouTube limits videos to 10 minutes,it's broken down into two parts. The first, "HAZEL MCCALLION'S LAWYER, "Inquiry will hurt campaign" (COURT HEARING VIDEO Part 1 of 2)" is at: http://tinyurl.com/2dgzsjg And the second court hearing video, "HAZEL MCCALLION'S LAWYER, "Inquiry will hurt campaign" (COURT HEARING VIDEO Part 2 of 2)" is at: http://tinyurl.com/28pw6at . A reminder, the court transcript is at: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc Best wishes, MISSISSAUGAWATCH
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 9:05 PM
@ Canadians regarding your two questions
I urge you to read the April 30, 2010 Judicial Inquiry court transcript. Here's the link again. http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc They interviewed witnesses and also subpoenaed several --although the court did not say who. The one thing that is not surprising is the delay in the Mayor's office handing over documents. Just based on how difficult it's been for me to get the City to hand over records through Freedom of Information, it's no surprise the Mayor's docs aren't forthcoming either. Court transcript: "So dealing first with the City, the City has worked pretty diligently to get us material. There is one (1) further tranche of several thousand documents to come and significantly it includes the bulk -- excuse me -- the bulk of materials to come from the Mayor's office." B'in there. Done that. :-)
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 8:56 PM
@ ConcernedResident
You wrote, "What gives YOU the right to insist I prove anything to you. I don't owe you a damn thing. You verbosity if full of bravado, and egotism. You are a one trick pony sweetie. Meet you on the 12th floor, I'd rather jump off it. You and your ilk disgust me." Repeat question ignored twice before. (I'll type louder) HAVE YOU READ THE APRIL 30, 2010 COURT TRANSCRIPT ON THIS ARTICLE?
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Canadians
May 9, 2010 8:52 PM
THE THIRTY WITNESSES...............
I'd be interested in knowing who a few of these witnesses are, besides the Muse, Mayor's staff and a few other well-knowns, I'm not sure who the others might be. It might provide some clarity as to the direction and the layers of information that the Inquiry is peeling back etc. It might even give us something to think about, as the Mayor seems to be twitching a bit as this unfolds.
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Canadians
May 9, 2010 8:45 PM
THE OTHER THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS
I read that there are thousands of documents requested but not yet sent. Does anyone know what kinds of documents they might be and/or why after all of this time, they are as yet, unsent?
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Canadians
May 9, 2010 7:42 PM
INTERESTING EVENTS SURROUNDING MAYOR'S 180 on Inquiry Vs. Campaign
Since it's a well-known fact that the Mayor is always 'campaigning' but never runs a campaign and even visits Japan during an election writ, she may be most concerned about the shipp tilting on its rudder and WHO will control the vote @ the council meeting. Interesting baton passing in WARD ONE with Tovey and Duquette as they are so obviously playing musical deck chairs. Must be some stuff blowing in the wind and across the Commissioner's desk.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 7:36 PM
@ Canadians, Tony, Uatu, et al --why didn't Tom Ubaniak mention the ConcernedResident/Mantis strategy?
Look people. Comes a time when you realize that "ConcernedResident" and "Mantis" have no intention of discussing issues. Such exchange of legitimate exchange of information works against their political aims --which is to keep the public oblivious. Actual discussion/debate require people do do their homework and inform themselves. Informed debate (and it is possible between conservatives and liberals because I've enjoyed such evenings) works against "ConcernedResident" and "Mantis". Having read Urbaniak, I'm now completely puzzled why he never mentioned this remarkable "SWAMP all but One Message" Internet strategy (also at Torstar and most apparent at the Sun). I can understand why Urbaniak didn't notice the DELETE strategy Here's a fun question. What if we went away for a week and came back here. Whose messages do you think would be all that remain? :-) Anyway. Got to work up the court videos to YouTube. Tra la.
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Canadians
May 9, 2010 7:21 PM
WHY DID THE MAYOR BACK PADDLE ON THE 'HURT THE CAMPAIGN ISSUE' ??
Since the Mayor's 180 on the impact of the Inquiry on her campaign, it MIGHT mean that the defining moment has already occurred; the Trudeau walk in the snow; the realization that it is NOW time to step down. So DO IT Mayor McCallion, and let the city commence a vibrant and lively debate about what we, the Citizens, see for the future of our City. JUST DO IT.
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Mantis
May 9, 2010 7:20 PM
You Went Off Your Meds LONG AGO
You went off your meds LONG AGO, Uatu.
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Mantis
May 9, 2010 7:18 PM
@Canadians
Hilarious! You attack Concerned Resident for being "inflammatory" and yet you see nothing wrong with the blatant spamming and hijacking of every single article by your fellow Mississauga hating, idiot leftist Barberite troglodytes. Here's a little fact of life you had all better get used to. You represent an insignificant minority in this city and until now you have been responsible for the vast majority of postings to this site. Those days are over. Those of us in the overwhelming majority in this city will no loger be quite and let you mouth off without responding. We will not sit by and allow you to post your tired old diatribes in response to every article without responding in a manner that the 95% of those in the city who don't buy your crap would agree with. In other words, from now on, until they terminate the feature in response to your wacky and increasingly irrational and churlish behavior, we will bring BALANCE to these pages and we will ensure that the comments truly reflect the opinion o
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ConcernedResident
May 9, 2010 5:26 PM
@Muse
What gives YOU the right to insist I prove anything to you. I don't owe you a damn thing. You verbosity if full of bravado, and egotism. You are a one trick pony sweetie. Meet you on the 12th floor, I'd rather jump off it. You and your ilk disgust me.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 3:06 PM
@ ConcernedResident and Mantis
I asked you both two questions. Will toss them again "Oh. Have you checked out the court transcripts yet? Or the proceedings video?"
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 2:39 PM
@ ConcernedResident Come out form hiding, Coward.
You wrote, "Can't stand the heat honey, get out of the kitchen. Your verbiage is getting tiresome." LOVE THE HEAT. BRING IT ON. I've called you out. Let's meet on the 12th floor City Hall! Next, PROVE your statement about the 25-30 hours because frankly, your track record for cowardice and dishonesty forces me to say "Prove it". And you won't. And we both know why. I bet I KNOW you already! Repeat. COWARD. Repeat. QUASI-FASCIST. (note, fascism definition: "a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control". Repeat. Don't worry about your comments going, I'll repost them for you!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 2:33 PM
@ Mantis.... writing "You and your fellow tinfoil hatters:
Really. Check out today's Blog and I'd call that about ohhhhh five hours of community time. Called "PEEL REGIONAL POLICE 'POLICE DAY' videos, photographs —and an update on Mississauga graffiti-tagger 'HACR'". I'd estimate three hours there and then maybe four hours YouTubing the five videos and serving up the Blog. Blog before that a transcript of Rogers telecast "Mayor's Hour": http://tinyurl.com/33hw4d8 Blog before that reporting on the deletion of readers' comments at Mississauga News (important for citizens to know, right?) http://tinyurl.com/33hw4d8 And before that the April 30th Judicial Inquiry court transcripts with link to every second of video from that hearing (the only in existence) http://tinyurl.com/2cr3bbe. And that's been since May 4th. Haven't summarized my graffiti/tagging research yet... "tinfoil hatters" ...BTW, my invitation to meet with "ConcernedResident" applies equally to you!
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ConcernedResident
May 9, 2010 2:32 PM
@Muse
Can't stand the heat honey, get out of the kitchen. Your verbiage is getting tiresome.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 2:15 PM
@ Mantis can you get any more intellectually dishonest?!
I have zero problems with "Disagree". But HOW, really, YOU TELL ME, how does some creep Disagree with a LINK? It's a LINK! It's like clicking disagree to the ad over at the right providing a link to "Nominate your favourite Mississauga businesses". I'm not "paranoid" merely amused at the rampant intellectual dishonesty around here is all. Also, I'm convinced that municipal incumbency here in MYTHissauga is --the likes of You. I'm reminded of that Iraq Ali guy, remember? Even as bombs dropped right there all around him when interviewed on CNN he INSISTED Saddam's army and guards were warding off the invaders and Victory was at hand. Turns out the Americans LOVED "Ali" --made them hoot and laugh. I love you and "ConcernedResident" for the same reason. Click "Disagree" to a link. I mean a LINK. The link either works or it doesn't. It works! HAHAHAHA... Oh. Have you checked out the court transcripts yet? Or the proceedings video? Love ya!
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Mantis
May 9, 2010 2:06 PM
@MississaugaWatch
You and your fellow tinfoil hatters can't stand the idea of someone actually daring to disagree with you or who find your tinfoil hat activities objectionalable. Why are you so paranoid and insecure that you fret and fuss over nonsense like disagree/offensive clicks?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 2:02 PM
HAAHAHAHAHA... GET THIS!
Some CRETIN clicked "Disagree" to "teh same"s May 9, 2010 1:15 PM. All he/she shared was a LINK! Here. Check this out. "Update: http://12121212.no-ip.info/news-watch/ Since 1:10 PM, the site now only updates whenever the comment page actually changes, and no screenshots are deleted unless Metroland/Torstar requests to do so. * Agree Disagree 1 Offensive"
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 1:45 PM
re: "Uatu"
The Misisssauga Moose writes,""Uatu, often simply known as The Watcher, is a fictional character, created by writer Stan Lee and designed by artist Jack Kirby, who first appeared in Fantastic Four Volume 1 #13 (April 1963). He is a member of the Watchers, an extraterrestrial species who in the distant past stationed themselves across space to monitor the activities of other species. Uatu is the Watcher assigned to observe Earth and its solar system." EXACTLY! "Uatu is the Watcher". And Uatu could not use the alias "Watcher" on here because that belongs to Donald Barber. I am the Watcher too. But decides on Mississauga Muse once the Mississauga News let me blog here. "The Mississauga Muse" The Mississauga News. Get it? (I understand the vast majority of people would. But every now and then there's 1 in 500 you have to spell that out for.) Hmmmm... I wonder what the Mississaugans used for the word "Watcher"... (she checks...)
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teh same
May 9, 2010 1:15 PM
Update: http://12121212.no-ip.info/news-watch/
Since 1:10 PM, the site now only updates whenever the comment page actually changes, and no screenshots are deleted unless Metroland/Torstar requests to do so.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 12:18 PM
This message answering the question from The Mississauga Moose is being RESENT due to its DELETION
@ Mississauga Moose old Mississauga News Blogs. You wrote, " Whatever happenned to...... "Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007." Unfortunately that original March 2007 Blog experienced three format changes at the Mississauga News. It (almost) survived the second change but the last dealt it a death blow. Fortunately I rescued the entire thing and just haven't made it a priority to repost it as mississaugawatch.ca. You can still access Mr. Stewart's "Random Access" through Google. Here: http://blogs.mississauga.com/blogs/John-Stewart Only problem is it's attracted dozens of Viagra "comments" My stuff from back then is all over the map. You see in March 2007, I'd only had two months of Freedom of Information behind me and was a complete green rube. The truly sad loss is John Stewart's "Random Access" (my personal favourite) from 2005 onward. Now THAT's a loss!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 9, 2010 12:17 PM
WOW! FASCINATING!
Everyone of my messages since The Mississauga Moose May 7, 2010 9:40 AM Whatever happenned to......... "Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007." has been erased. INCLUDING MY ANSWER TO THE MISSISSAUGA MOOSE! Now WHY would someone find my answer to The Mississauga Moose "Offensive"? (see my RESENT answer above)
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teh same
May 9, 2010 11:54 AM
http://12121212.no-ip.info/news-watch/
I've created a nice little service (see URL above) that saves a screenshot of the last five comments on this article every two minutes. There is a zip file containing all of the screenshots for every hour, and data is kept for three days. "Offensive" clickers, you will have to orchestrate your efforts to be successful in your censorship.
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The Mississauga Moose
May 7, 2010 9:40 AM
Whatever happenned to.........
"Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007."
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The Mississauga Moose
May 7, 2010 9:26 AM
Uatu's Reality
In recent years Uatu has undertaken the study of the Earths of alternate realities. With permission from the Timekeepers, he possesses a portal through which he can observe alternate realities. He has acquired extraordinary knowledge of the history of both the sentient beings on "mainstream" Earth and numerous alternate Earthson "mainstream" Earth and numerous alternate Earths."
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The Mississauga Moose
May 7, 2010 9:18 AM
More about Uatu
"As a member of the race of Watchers, Uatu possesses vast psionic abilities which have been further developed through training. These abilities include flight, telepathy, energy-manipulation powers, power-negating force-field projection, illusion casting, the ability to psionically alter his appearance at will, and highly advanced cosmic senses allowing him to be aware of countless events of Earth. His superhumanly complex intelligence enables him to monitor activities throughout Earth's solar system simultaneously. Uatu can convert his body into an unknown form of energy while still retaining his sentience for travel through hyperspace, and then return to his physical form. Bolstered by treatment with "delta-rays", Uatu possesses virtual immortality, although he can die by losing the will to live. Watchers can augment their strength with cosmic psionic energy if they choose to; however they tend to minimize their physical activities."
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The Mississauga Moose
May 7, 2010 9:13 AM
About Uatu
"Uatu, often simply known as The Watcher, is a fictional character, created by writer Stan Lee and designed by artist Jack Kirby, who first appeared in Fantastic Four Volume 1 #13 (April 1963). He is a member of the Watchers, an extraterrestrial species who in the distant past stationed themselves across space to monitor the activities of other species. Uatu is the Watcher assigned to observe Earth and its solar system."
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ConcernedResident
May 7, 2010 8:48 AM
@Uatu
It's sad that you are the only one who can't se how pathetic you sound. It's not enough just t re-post your drivel, but you have to add another post taunting others to delete your diatribes. Are you sure you are not deleting your own posts to make sure they appear at the front of the line?
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Randy
May 7, 2010 8:15 AM
@ Muse
Good Morning :) I'm now sitting on the fence with the question you asked yesterday regarding Right To Know. For those who have not read the transcripts ect.. provided by Muse take sometime and do so.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 11:33 PM
@ Uatu -- ConcernedResident's wallet is doing the keyboarding.
You wrote, "As the Muse points out, you can't libel someone who hides behind anonimity. She does not, yet Mantis and ConcernedResident have both used terms like paranoid, tinfoil hat set, crazy, and delusional. I'm not going to bother to find others but there are more. That's real libel against the Muse, Mantis. Glad you brought it up." Just a reminder, Uatu that I'm on a (HAHAHAHAHA) mayoral candidate which means I'm fair game. As for the terms, "paranoid, tinfoil hat set, crazy, and delusional" I think the video I YouTubed today addresses those issues nicely. I've been telling people for years now how unaccountable and abusive City of Mississauga employees are. And how the "uniforms" (enforcement, security) are THEEE worst of the lot. Said they don't know their own policies and by-laws. Well, it's all in that Rogers Cable 10 telecast, three callers. Different voices. And even McCallion admits there's an employee that doesn't know there's a Tree by-law. Many can't even find their own @***s without a GPS, br
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 10:22 PM
@ Canadians, sorry, must disagree
You wrote, "is that Mr. Cunningham should have all the time he needs to review all of the facts to form the best opinion " I have a problem with "all the facts". The Commissioner won't have them. No way. I took the Ontario Ombudsman's "Sharpen Your Teeth III" course. Only way to have a decent chance to get "all the facts", your investigators show up unannounced the subpoena every box and Post It note. Unnannounced. Like police do in a drug raid. What? Police announce, we're subpoening you Thursday afternoon? (Watch the drugs shipped elsewhere). Or in the case here, everyone is requested to hand over relevant documents. Seriously. This is the City of Mississauga! So no. The Commissioner won't get "all the facts" any more than the readers here get all the comments. And of the docs he will get, expect differential reporting AND creative writing!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 10:02 PM
@ Canadians. Want a laugh? ROGERS telecast (to compare with the documentaries?)
A new reader served up a comment to a Letter to the Editor and wrote, "Try ever to question or complain to the city or a (select) councillors office, no matter how legitament or innocent, if you do not drink their "kool-aid" you will find yourself at the nasty end of enforcement officers being sent to your home looking for infractions. It does not matter that they are bogus or without merit, they due it for the sole purpose of harrassment (bully's)." True to form, "ConcernedResident" called for "real proof". But we all know he doesn't accept, audio, video, Freedom of Information or scholarly research from Tom Urbaniak. So I grabbed an old Rogers telecast from December 1, 2008 and Mayor McCallion was having one bad night. Caller 1 asked why the City didn't have a Tree by-law. The Mayor didn't know.Caller 2 told the Mayor that the City DID have a Tree by-law because she was on the receiving end of an order to remove a tree. Caller 3 complained that she was being "terrorized by the City" and that by-law enforcem
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 9:52 PM
DELETION STATS for May 6, 2010 (9:52 pm continued)
Having worked up video today of a December 1, 2008 Rogers "Mayor's Hour" it occurred to me. "ConcernedResident" and "Mantis" may well not be doing the deleting. I suspect there are plenty of City employees prepared to silence --and they're GREAT at what I've come to call "differential reporting".
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 9:51 PM
DELETION STATS for May 6, 2010
MissyNews word search shows 203 comments have been posted to Louie Rosella's article, "Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer". Only 85 (41%) messages survive. The retention rate is somewhat better than the 32% a few days ago. Still, people here see fit to censor almost 60% of readers comments here through DELETION. When you add "flight1"s strategy of manufacturing a direct lie to deceive readers into thinking that a link I'd provided to the Judicial Inquiry court transcripts contained "a virus and a bunch of spyware" that's just soooooo "Suffocate Truth" MYTHissauga. By contrast, "flight1"s May 5, 2010 2:40 PM lie that reads, "After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better" still enjoys Agree 6 Disagree 1 and not a single Offensive. Reminds me of a Churchill quote. "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." Having worked up video today of a December 1, 2008 Rogers "
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 9:19 PM
My dear fellow bloggers,
It is Mr. Cunningham who has the clues and the facts; the Mayor seems to be a tad antsy about the whole thing. My point, related to the article, is that Mr. Cunningham should have all the time he needs to review all of the facts to form the best opinion ---- even all of the FACTS on the 16,000 pages he has been waiting for the Mayor and her caste to submit. Montreal is winning............... Yeah, for now.
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ConcernedResident
May 6, 2010 7:33 PM
THE EMPOORER HAS NO CLOTHES, CANADIANS HAS NO FACTS
Typical avoidance. Make a statement, that you have no hope of backing up, then fail to respond when called on it. Your gibberish only covers the fact that you have no clue.
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 6:27 PM
BLOG STUDY NOTES MAY BE AVAILABLE THIS FALL, IN ENGLISH AND GREEK!!
Concerned Resident, you wrote @ 5:44 "Still no real world connection. Leave the fantasy world stuff for what you read your kid at night. Let's hear the connection. This time, no gibberish. Speak English." ConcernedResident, you're such fun. Today's scientific news is that there is Neanderthal genes in all of us, some more than others. Let's give Commissioner Cunningham all the time he needs to sort out through the greece and the genetic codes thriving in MYTHissauga.
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ConcernedResident
May 6, 2010 5:44 PM
@Canadians
Still no real world connection. Leave the fantasy world stuff for what you read your kid at night. Let's hear the connection. This time, no gibberish. Speak English.
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 5:36 PM
Fat finger problems on a key board on the Stock Exchange???
Fat fingers on keyboards on this blog ---------- all create problems. Sorry concerned Resident but MYTHissauga and all of its machinations is a goldfish bowl of the real world and when the water gets sucked out of Greece's bowl, these days ours will disappear in the tandem. This city has been run like a Greek myth and Commissioner Cunningham is going to read us the story, expose the plot, the players and the micro tragedy in our own Greek Mythissauga. There are lots of little fish being fried in Greece and lots of little fish in MYTHissauga who hope Commissioner Cunningham tells all on the fat, sticky fingers in this city. And he take as long as he needs to get it right. Oh, obviously the Mayor cares what the score is after one period; hence the hissy-fit we're reading about.
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ConcernedResident
May 6, 2010 5:27 PM
@Mantis
Don't use that word "God" around Muse! She's the only "expert" here.
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Mantis
May 6, 2010 4:56 PM
@ConcernedResident
Even better.....news reports are now saying that the massive drop in the Dow was due to a TYPO! LOL. When are these people going to learn that not everything is a massive conspiracy involving you, me, Mayor McCallion, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and God knows who else!
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ConcernedResident
May 6, 2010 4:46 PM
@Canadians
Can you explain how Greece ties in to the inquiry? Love to see how these two are linked in your world!!!! Oh, and by the way the TSE closed down 32 points, DOW 347. GET THE FACTS BEFORE YOU POST YOUR DRIVEL. And yes, I know it was down more during the day. It's like a hockey game. Who cares what the score is after one period.
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 4:12 PM
LOONIE LOSES 3 CENTS AS DOW SHEDS 900 POINTS....
WILD RIDE ON STOCK MARKETS............. send in the internet trolls and they'll delete it. Send in the Mayor and she'll tell them that they'd better get their act together because it might interfere with her election campaign. A drop of 5% in one day = a stock market crash. No matter how much the trolls delete, a crash and burn is a still a crash and burn, even when ya don't want ta talk about it. Important to consider how you run MYTHissauga with much less money from the feds, the province, assessment rolls, and development charges. Great time for the Mayor to make her exit. We are all Greece; when ya live in a MYTH it takes a little longer to connect the dots. Keep up the good work Commissioner Cunningham. Take all the time ya need to get it right.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 4:07 PM
@ Randy (if you're back from your walk)
You said you were reading the transcript. Over at a related article you said you were on the Public Right to Know side of the equation. Me, I went in siding with Peter McCallion but after the hearing wasn't so sure but still hung with protecting Individual Privacy. I'm curious, did you change your opinion at all after reading the lawyers' arguments or still with Public Right to Know?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 4:05 PM
@ Mantis, trying to make DELETED May 6, 2010 10:16 AM message and May 6, 2010 4:00 PM RESEND clearer
You wrote, " I cannot explain why anyone else does anything or what their motivations are. I can only speak for myself." Yeah. I understand that. And that's what I'm asking when three people found that message Offensive. Just askin' you to speak for yourself. What do YOU think about purposely lying that my link sent people to a virus and a bunch of spyware?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 4:00 PM
@ Mantis, tsk tsk tsk --seems my follow up question to you was DELETED. Now why someone would find this "Offensive" I have no idea but--
MISSISSAUGAWATCH Message originally sent May 6, 2010 10:16 AM and DELETED as "Offensive" [RESEND] @ Mantis, your opinion then, please You wrote, "I don't know how much more clear I could have been....I don't have the foggiest idea. I cannot explain why anyone else does anything or what their motivations are. I can only speak for myself." I appreciate that, thank you. Related question then. What is your OPINION of "flight1" who purposely lied that the link I'd provided to the Judicial Inquiry court transcript gave his computer "a virus and a bunch of spyware" to discourage MissyNews readers here from accessing the court transcripts?
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Mantis
May 6, 2010 9:41 AM
@Mississaugvawatch
I don't know how much more clear I could have been....I don't have the foggiest idea. I cannot explain why anyone else does anything or what their motivations are. I can only speak for myself.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:23 AM
The DELETIONS begin anew and swiftly RESENDING Uatu's May 6, 2010 7:36 AM
Mantis & libel: another example of doublethink Libel: communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. As the Muse points out, you can't libel someone who hides behind anonimity. She does not, yet Mantis and ConcernedResident have both used terms like paranoid, tinfoil hat set, crazy, and delusional. I'm not going to bother to find others but there are more. That's real libel against the Muse, Mantis. Glad you brought it up. * Agree * Disagree * Offensive 2 [Yet Mantis' message May 5, 2010 10:51 PM calling us "us "paranoid" "delusional" "idiots" "Need-to-get-a-Lifers" enjoys "Agree 2 Disagree 1 Offensive". Imagine, no one finds his comments "Offensive". Obvious who are doing the DELETIONS. And may I add the behaviour is just oh so City of Mississauga, eh?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:18 AM
The DELETIONS begin anew and swiftly RESENDING Uatu's May 6, 2010 7:36 AM comment
Mantis & libel: another example of doublethink Libel: communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. As the Muse points out, you can't libel someone who hides behind anonimity. She does not, yet Mantis and ConcernedResident have both used terms like paranoid, tinfoil hat set, crazy, and delusional. I'm not going to bother to find others but there are more. That's real libel against the Muse, Mantis. Glad you brought it up. * Agree Disagree Offensive 2
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 10:16 AM
@ Mantis, your opinion then, please
You wrote, "I don't know how much more clear I could have been....I don't have the foggiest idea. I cannot explain why anyone else does anything or what their motivations are. I can only speak for myself." I appreciate that, thank you. Related question then. What is your OPINION of "flight1" who purposely lied that the link I'd provided to the Judicial Inquiry court transcript gave his computer "a virus and a bunch of spyware" to discourage MissyNews readers here from accessing the court transcripts?
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Mantis
May 6, 2010 9:41 AM
@Mississaugvawatch
I don't know how much more clear I could have been....I don't have the foggiest idea. I cannot explain why anyone else does anything or what their motivations are. I can only speak for myself.
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 9:34 AM
McCALLION'S MODUS OPERENDI...... I COMMAND; YOU FOLLOW.
Mr. Cunningham is called in to do an investigation; he still doesn't have all of the documents he has requested; we've found out that emails, schedules and such have been deleted, as a matter of practice; and now the key player let's it be known that SHE want's HIM to GET GOING ON THIS INQUIRY, 'cause it might affect THE MAYOR'S election campaign............. She's a hurricane. Get the job done but without all of the stuff to do a top flight job; and jump to it on command............................ Typical modus operendi, that everyone in the big, unfinished yellow brick building experiences. It's Oz! Where are the ruby red slippers?
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 9:19 AM
MAYOR IS A CLASSIC REASON FOR TWO TERM LIMITS
McGuinty is not afraid of the City Staff; he's afraid of the Mayor. She's a Hurricane and she needs to retire or be removed from office. She also has no right to expect to name her annointed one and have the sheep put that person into office for life and thus, maintaining the status CONTROL. THIS IS NOT HOW A MODERN CITY IN A LEADING G8 NATION SHOULD BE GOVERNED OR MANAGED. Take back the city voters.
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Canadians
May 6, 2010 9:13 AM
MAYOR SHOULD RETIRE
A) No one should be Mayor for life; it's very bad for democracy. B) Staff are a major problem as you have document; but, they do not 'forget' to declare a conflict of interest and they are not the primary reason why there are 16,000 pages of documents = requested by Commissioner Cunningham which are outstanding. It is the compliant minions directed by the BOSS. The Mayor is the Admiral of HER Shipp. Notice how the Mayor is full of praise one day with City staff and livid with contempt the next ------------- that's how a bully keeps everyone on edge ---- never know what's next; never know if what you do is good enough; never know when the Master will pat you on the head , toss you a bone or send you out to the dog house. TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:23 AM
The DELETIONS begin anew and swiftly RESENDING Uatu's May 6, 2010 7:36 AM
Mantis & libel: another example of doublethink Libel: communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. As the Muse points out, you can't libel someone who hides behind anonimity. She does not, yet Mantis and ConcernedResident have both used terms like paranoid, tinfoil hat set, crazy, and delusional. I'm not going to bother to find others but there are more. That's real libel against the Muse, Mantis. Glad you brought it up. * Agree * Disagree * Offensive 2 [Yet Mantis' message May 5, 2010 10:51 PM calling us "us "paranoid" "delusional" "idiots" "Need-to-get-a-Lifers" enjoys "Agree 2 Disagree 1 Offensive". Imagine, no one finds his comments "Offensive". Obvious who are doing the DELETIONS. And may I add the behaviour is just oh so City of Mississauga, eh?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:14 AM
@ Randy
Thank you for not just keeping an open mind, but also taking the time to do your homework. Because that's what reading those court transcripts is all about. Getting past the article (which is an interpretation of an event) and doing primary research as to what actually happened.
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Randy
May 6, 2010 8:11 AM
I started to read it last night. Will finish reading today. Interesting stuff
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Randy
May 6, 2010 8:09 AM
Taking my own advice that I dished out yesturday and going for a walk. It is a gorgeous morning. Cheers
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:08 AM
@ ConcernedResident, Mantis, flight1 et al Obvious question
Anyone bothered to go and READ the court transcript at http://mail.tscript.com/trans/mississauga/apr_30_10/index.htm (aka http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc)?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 8:01 AM
The Essence of the City of Mississauga is right here.
Yet there was Councillor Saito, one of the six, who told the contractor that Staff had "assured" her that due diligence WAS done. Mantis would fit in with those SIX. Ultimately it all comes down to Truth. The overt lying going on (flight1 saying my link gives a virus and bunch of spyware), or the withholding of it (identities --happens at City of Mississauga too). Or as in Mantis' case, giving responses instead of answers (#1 City of Mississauga strategy). Or the DELETION of alternate viewpoints --as amply documented here. What makes this thread so perfect is that ALL of the City of Mississauga behaviours are right here in one convenient place. Bottomline, it is those white-collar-crime suppress-the-truth behaviours that is going to make it extremely difficult for the Judicial Inquiry investigators to determine conclusively what happened in 1999-2000. After all, the City is handing over records "voluntarily". Freedom of Information has taught me that it's the stuff they hold back you want. As those sub-contr
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 7:49 AM
Now now Uatu, Mantis is Mantis
Cut-and-pasting what I wrote Mantis last night. "I only hit "Offensive" for racist material and a fully-spelled out F-word. Call us "paranoid" "delusional" "idiots" "Need-to-get-a-Lifers", frankly Mantis, I've been SO ABUSED by the City of Mississauga all your hatred just rolls off me. I know this is how you treat others who disagree with your views." That's why I'm standing up against the City of MIssissauga too. I've actually watched a group of sub-contractors CHEATED right up there before Council. The sub-contractor saying because he was being "stonewalled" he filed Freedom of Information and learned the contractor the City hired was a disaster. All he asked was what "due diligence" the City had done. There that day were SIX who were at Audit Committees when it came out how badly "due diligence" was not happening with contracts. One of them said that report she'd read on contracts was "the worst I've read" --30 years. Yet there was Councillor Saito, one of the six, who told the contractor that Staff had
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 6, 2010 7:40 AM
@ Mantis, don't get all City of Mississauga and fling a response ANSWER my simple question please
Repeat: Here's the link. http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc And a reminder. "flight1" on your side. Not mine. Can't get a simpler question. Mantis? Why would "flight1" lie like that?
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Mantis
May 6, 2010 7:30 AM
I Don't Have A "Team"
I don't have a "team" Muse. I can't tell you why other people do what they do but I can speculate and my guess is that the ridiculous and over the top reactions to "Disagree" and "Offensive" clicks probably has a lot to do with it.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 11:25 PM
Mantis, why would flight1 lie about my link giving his computer a virus and a bunch of spyware.
Here's the link. http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc And a reminder. "flight1" on your side. Not mine. Can't get a simpler question. Mantis? Why would "flight1" lie like that? Related question. Why would six others Agree with that lie? That's YOUR "team"... Right?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 11:20 PM
Prediction. Mantis' message will stay up. Mine goes down.
Despite his containing "You paranoid people" "your insane reactions" "get a life" "get a job" " too much time on your hands" "tinfoil hat". This article is now a study site, documenting the "Friends of Hazel"and their terror for a simple link like this one: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc So intellectually dishonest, so relentless in keeping readers from truth, "flight1" lies about it containing a virus and spyware so people won't read the proceedings. It's all there. The deletions of even the Judicial Inquiry video. Even you're loathing of Freedom of Information. You're one Double-plus authoritarian. And of course, too chickeny to put a name to your noises.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 11:11 PM
OH MY! The FIRST THREE-BE EVER!' "Maybe you people ought to get a life and get a job or something because you obviously have too much time on your hands. "
Mantis, it's remarkable watching (ctrl-R's) as four or five messages at once receive one "Offensive" then two, and then totally disappear. At the same time (she checks) yes, flight1's 2:40 PM message lying about my link to the Judicial Inquiry court transcripts giving his computer a virus and a bunch of spyware is still up. With ZERO OFFENSIVES. I continue to be consistent regarding Freedom of Expression and will not hit "Offensive" even if you wish death on both my parents. I only hit "Offensive" for racist material and a fully-spelled out F-word. Call us "paranoid" "delusional" "idiots" "Need-to-get-a-Lifers", frankly Mantis, I've been SO ABUSED by the City of Mississauga all your hatred just rolls off me. I know this is how you treat others who disagree with your views. It's not your messages that get deleted despite your vicious name-calling. Psst. Blog can't be "libelous" when you're HIDING behind anonymity. Coward.
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Mantis
May 5, 2010 10:51 PM
Need Help
You paranoid people really need some help. For starters, claiming that ConcernedResident and I are somehow in cahoots and deleting your posts with the help of some mythical third party is insanity and it is false. Your posts are probably getting flagged as "offensive" because in many cases (Uatu in particular) they ARE offensive but also because visitors to this site probably find your insane reactions to people who disagree with you or who find your posts offensive to be completely off the wall. Maybe you people ought to get a life and get a job or something because you obviously have too much time on your hands. The amount of work put into that libellous blog that accuses me and others (such as ConcernedResident) of all sorts of ridiculous things must have taken a great deal of effort and smacks of utter obsession. The obsession with “Freedom of Information Requests” also probably strikes most people, myself included, as being activities of the tinfoil hat set.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 10:23 PM
@ Canadians
You wrote, "Mayor Hazel is EIGHTY-NINE years old. Her shipp is docking and she's getting off." I hope not, Canadians. I really believe it's her destiny to be Mayor of Mississauga for Life. Like if I were writing a novel? That's how it'd go. For much of what I've been documenting?.... I blame STAFF. Not McCallion.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 10:15 PM
@ Randy *smile* yeah, I noticed too
You wrote, "After telling you it was a nice day and to go outside and take a walk I noticed a storm blew in. I swear it was nice and sunny when I posted that comment." Absolutely correct. Read your wise words when it was sunny. By the time I'd decided to waddle around the sky broke. But then again, rain's nice too, you know. Terrific for robins to go bob bob bobbin' for worms. (admittedly not good for worms...)
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 10:13 PM
Ironic. But the DELETIONS we've seen here (over 60% of messages)?
I suspect that's how many relevant documents/records have been swallowed by Mr. Delete Key's eLIMINATOR and Sargeant Shredder during the 2009 and 2010 City of Mississauga Action Weeks. Here ya go. http://tinyurl.com/2f5nqds
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH
May 5, 2010 10:08 PM
WOW, Uatu, it took over a hundred messages before someone tossed the ol' "Get a life"
You hold the record now. A new king doth be-ith crowned. New topic. A bit of a quibble. Comment 9:47 PM certain to be deleted by the UNtaggers. You wrote, "I'm sure that was a pig flying by my window." Can we please keep creatures great and small out of these human discussions, please? They don't deserve it and as far as pigs go, as you know only too well, they are quite clever and admirable creatures who prefer not to dive into the immoral crap-heap that is politics.
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Randy
May 5, 2010 10:03 PM
@Muse
After telling you it was a nice day and to go outside and take a walk I noticed a storm blew in. I swear it was nice and sunny when I posted that comment.
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May 5, 2010 10:02 PM
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May 5, 2010 9:58 PM
Repost 1487 due to an idiot
Uatu, you really need to get a life. If your posts are deleted its because others feel you are an idiot as well. After something is deleted nobody wants to be reading it over and over again. Maybe try posting something different. Prove to us you are not an idiot.
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Canadians May 5, 2010 9:27 PM
CHECK OUT THE WORLD, LATELY??? ...............
Greece is becoming a black hole - black swan situation which will tsunami all of us ----------- Ironic, the homeland of democracy and ancient myths of olde sinking into the abyss, and here in MYTHissauga democracy has it's own documented challenges ---- We are Greece; we are the world; it's the end of an Era in both the EU and MYTHissauga. Nothing is forever; time waits for no one. The Mayor is EIGHTY-NINE. Retire. Wrap it up. Book a cruise.
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Canadians May 5, 2010 9:17 PM
MAYOR HAZEL IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN 2nd post @ 9:15 PM Wednesday.
First post deleted: Time 8:29 AM Tuesday. May 4, 2010 Mayor Hazel is EIGHTY-NINE years old. Her shipp is docking and she's getting off. Her pressure on Commisioner Cunningham is disgraceful and revealing. Regaining control of city council by planting her sycophants here and there or having them rant over yet another" Rob Peter to pay Paul story" (happens everywhere) does not cover up the fact that her boat is a' rocking and docking. The fact is, it looks like, she and her SHIPPSTERS are preparing to attempt to transfer power to an annointed one and they're @#$% because thousands of people in this city know it; stil they still machinate. Sorta like the Armada. All the bombastic rants and "squash the message internet trolling" is rather undignified ; best to just wave good-bye and start a new chapter in this city and retire the whole team.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 9:13 PM
Error in a comment of mine. Apologies.
On May 4th 11:49 PM I wrote, " DELETION STATS FOR this article plus Rogers Cable 10 Stats (Mayor enjoys 30 hours of free campaign television)". That is incorrect. I'd assumed these shows were an hour long. I was wrong. Half hour. I watched the first two shows and I guess it just seemed like they were an hour apiece.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 8:45 PM
BLOG: "SYSTEMATIC DELETION OF READER COMMENTS AT MISSISSAUGA NEWS ARTICLE, “INQUIRY WILL HURT CAMPAIGN: LAWYER” (MISSISSAUGAWATCH preliminary report)"
at: http://tinyurl.com/22m48oz Now fully expect "flight1" to warn people that this link too gives his computer "a virus and a bunch of spyware"
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 8:43 PM
@ anti-muse2
You asked, "are you running for mayor or something?" No. Just signed up. Part of ongoing research. Researching (observation audio/video, Freedom of Information) Ontario municipal governance (esp Brampton, Mississauga, Peel) and how municipalities affect Youth. Researching Safe City Mississauga, observing Mississauga Youth Plan, Peel Youth Violence Prevention Network. Also documented the passing McGuinty's Fraud of Bill 130 and Bill 159. Since the youth who really needed help never showed at any of these youth meetings, I decided to find these people myself. Expanded research into skateboarding (both East and West coast style) and also graffiti/tagging. Now researching the zero-chances that challengers have against incumbents. Decided for Mayor because... as ConcernedResident says, I'm "delusional". Thanks for asking.
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anti-muse2 May 5, 2010 6:56 PM
@ Mississaugawatch
are you running for mayor or something?
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 6:49 PM
@ anti-muse2
You wrote, "There are a few people that have some very strong opinions about the city, and those that run it." I've no problem with that provided that they back up their opinions with facts/data. Look around. That doesn't happen here. I serve up audio, video, Freedom of Information and quotes from Tom Urbaniak who's been studying Hazel McCallion for a couple of decades and NONE of that is accepted. I DO have a problem with that. Why? Because I question the motivation. When someone deliberately accuses me of providing a link that gives a virus and spyware when it's really a link to the Judicial Inquiry April 30, 2010 court transcripts, what's that tell you? And when you get "Mississauga Moose" "anti-muse" and now you at "anti-muse2" that's sure proved me right back on January 4th when I predicted that this wouldn't be an "issue-driven campaign. Thanks for your message. I expect mine erased shortly.
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anti-muse2 May 5, 2010 6:40 PM
Expressing Yourself ..
I have been sitting back and reading all of the back and forth between the people that dare to respond. It seems that no matter what you say, someone is going to twist it around, or misinterrupt what is being said. Everyone has a right to their own opinon and whether we accept it is up to us. While I may not agree with everything that is being written, I don't think anyone should jump on anyone else for expressing themselves. There are a few people that have some very strong opinons about the city, and those that run it. Okay fine you have the right to express it but don't belittle someone for not agreeing with what you've said. Sometimes it's best to just let it go.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 5:26 PM
Testing degree of censorship by Friends of Hazel.
This is just to test Mantis' comment "Justice Cunningham probably already has a pretty good idea as to what he's dealing with in regards to the "citizen journalists!" LOL." denigrating citizen-journalists. I did precisely what I promised and made an unaltered video of the April 30, 2010 Mississauga court hearing online in its 85 minute entirety. Here is the link to "MISSISSAUGA JUDICIAL INQUIRY: April 30, 2010 (in its entirety)" at http://www.vimeo.com/11444364 People can watch that or go to the court transcript at the link that I've provided all along. http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc Best wishes, The Mississauga Muse, MISSISSAUGAWATCH, mississaugawatch.ca
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 5:22 PM
@ Randy, taking a break as you wisely suggested
Fully expect when I return all messages will be erased save what the "Friends of Hazel" allow. Meaning flight1's "After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better" deliberate lie to discourage readers from accessing http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc (April 30, 2010) court transcript will be all that's there.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:56 PM
Mantis, Mantis, Mantis..
You write, "Justice Cunningham probably already has a pretty good idea as to what he's dealing with in regards to the "citizen journalists!" LOL." and then "Trying to interrupt the proceedings to show him videos of something as completely pointless and irrelevant as supposedly deleted posts on this page will certainly erase any doubt." Uh. Do you actually READ what you cough up before hitting Send? I won't show him videos. Like seriously. Look at the title of the article. "Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer" You people are doing your all for one teeny link to the court transcripts. That's why I had a tough time keeping a straight face when McCallion's lawyer "worried" about the campaign for a Mayor who brags that she doesn't. Anyway, tra laaaaa
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 4:56 PM
@Uatu
Once again, every time you type on you keyboard, you demonstrate how foolish you are. The MYTHology is the crap spewed the Benny Hill gang.
* Agree 3 Disagree 2
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
@Muse: Facts offend fascists [Repost 8 due to censor trolls]
Stating a fact, supported with evidence, offends those who can't stand the truth. "This statement contradicts my delusion! Offensive! Must... delete..." If they truly believed they were right, these trolls wouldn't care what we posted. They can't leave our posts up because any objective observer can plainly see the truth. Mustn't let the truth get in the way of a good MYTH.
Disagree 1 Offensive 2
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:53 PM
MYTHissauga censor trolls are at it again [Repost 10 due to censor trolls]
I notice that the trolls can't even abide answers to the questions they ask. These people would feel right at home in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Maybe they're the ones who should move. I notice they even deleted The Spudder's innocent question about where the other posts went. No thoughts other than theirs allowed!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:51 PM
Pssst ConcernedResident, read this...
The Mississauga Moose sent May 5, 2010 4:34 PM "Do you think then maybe J. Douglas Cunningham might get what's really truly happening here in Mississauga? And then he could launch an inquistion and rout out the scoundrels and everyone would then see the truth for what it really is, right? Then maybe, just maybe, you could be the Mayor!" REPEAT (as anyone knows who's watched the video I posted to YouTube January 4, 2010) I have no intention of being Mayor just experiencing the fraud of a Mississauga municipal election and discover precisely WHY no politician has summoned the b***s to challenge her. I mean look around here at what happens to comments where I simply post a link to the April 30, 2010 Mississauga Judicial Inquiry court transcripts. A "Friend of Hazel" lies that it's got a virus and spyware. AND 6 Agree. Like I said in a message erased here a couple days ago. Mississauga is morally beyond redemption. And thank you for doing YOUR parts. * Agree 5 * | * Disagree * | * Offensive
* Agree 1 Disagree 1 Offensive 1
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:49 PM
@Moose: no inquisition
Justice Cunnigham has a narrow mandate and can't possibly deal with all or even much of the rot at the Corporation of the City of Mississauga. He might expose some of it. The funniest post of the day goes to ConcernedResident, who obliviously posted inadvertent turht forr once. Yes, Justice Cunningham WILL know he is dealing with mythology. MYTHissauga mythology.
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Randy May 5, 2010 4:46 PM
muse & Uatu
Its a beautiful day outside. Why not take a break from spamming and go for a walk. Would do you both good.
* Agree 4
Mantis May 5, 2010 4:45 PM
@ConcernedResident
Justice Cunningham probably already has a pretty good idea as to what he's dealing with in regards to the "citizen journalists!" LOL. Trying to interrupt the proceedings to show him videos of something as completely pointless and irrelevant as supposedly deleted posts on this page will certainly erase any doubt.
* Agree 4 Disagree 1
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:45 PM
This message sent at May 5, 2010 4:39 PM was erased by 4:44 pm
@ ConcernedResident, too true You wrote, re: "At least then Justice Cunningham will know what he is dealing with. More MYTHology." Actually the data will show precisely what Mississauga voters must contend with. People like you, Mantis and flight1. Notice for example that flight1's message where he lies about the link that I'd provided to the April 30, 2010 Mississauga Judicial Inquiry hearing contained a virus and spyware has "Agree 6"s and NO "Offensive"s. Not a one. Why? You are correct in that I could hit "Offensive", so could "Uatu" and all it would take is one other person and flight1's lie to readers would be erased. You are correct when you write, " Justice Cunningham will know what he is dealing with. More MYTHology." flight1 and 6 Others only too happy to discourage people from reading the court transcripts for themselves!
* Agree 1 Disagree 2 Offensive 1
The Mississauga Moose May 5, 2010 4:34 PM
@ MW
You wrote: "Yes, am recording this with video (including this send), photographed and printscreened. Will actually submit it all to the J. Douglas Cunningham to show what I meant by Truth suffocated at Birth in MYTHissauga." Do you think then maybe J. Douglas Cunningham might get what's really truly happening here in Mississauga? And then he could launch an inquistion and rout out the scoundrels and everyone would then see the truth for what it really is, right? Then maybe, just maybe, you could be the Mayor!
* Agree 6
Private May 5, 2010 3:56 PM
OMG!! @ 3:53 there are 6 agrees.
Is anybody recording this and posting it on you tube? Can you believe what's happining here?
* Agree 4
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 3:56 PM
Witness the campaign tactics of the Mayor Who Doesn't Campaign
In his May 5, 2010 2:40 PM comment flight1 "warns" people, After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better." At 3:53 pm, 6 have Agreed. That means seven people are lying when they say that the link http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc has a virus and spyware. The fact is that http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc is simply takes you to the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry April 30, 2010 court transcript. So... let's see what we got here.. "ConcernedResident" (God), "Mantis" (Guns) "flight1' (LIES). What else does ANY government need to stay in Power? * Agree 6 * | * Disagree * | * Offensive
* Agree 1 Disagree 2 Offensive 1
ISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 3:48 PM
Oops. At 3:47 pm there are now "5 Agrees" that the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry website has viruses and spyware.
light1's stats: "After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better. * Agree 5" Witness the evil of MYTHissauga.
* Agree 1 Disagree 2 Offensive 1
flight1 May 5, 2010 2:40 PM
After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better.
* Agree 6 Disagree 1
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 2:21 PM
This "diatribe" was posted by Watcher May 2, 2010 10:00 PM and DELETED
@ Canadians Jim Murray and the police thing - can you supply more details as to what you mean.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 5:04 PM
DELETION STATS: Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer
Mississauga News shows (83) readers comments. Just 36 have survived the "Friends of Hazel" 43%. Actually that's a LOT better than the previous retention reports hovering at 32%. flight1's message lying that my link to the April 30, 2010 court transcript contained a virus and spyware remains at "6 Agrees" and zero "Offensives" strongly suggesting where the Deletions are coming from. And the devout follower of "The One" (ConcernedResident) demonstrates his commitment to "The One"s teaching by referring to me linking to the Judicial Inquiry court transcripts as "MYTHology is the crap spewed the Benny Hill gang." I hope God gets you for that, pumpkin.
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:56 PM
Mantis, Mantis, Mantis..
You write, "Justice Cunningham probably already has a pretty good idea as to what he's dealing with in regards to the "citizen journalists!" LOL." and then "Trying to interrupt the proceedings to show him videos of something as completely pointless and irrelevant as supposedly deleted posts on this page will certainly erase any doubt." Uh. Do you actually READ what you cough up before hitting Send? I won't show him videos. Like seriously. Look at the title of the article. "Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer" You people are doing your all for one teeny link to the court transcripts. That's why I had a tough time keeping a straight face when McCallion's lawyer "worried" about the campaign for a Mayor who brags that she doesn't. Anyway, tra laaaaa
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 4:56 PM
@Uatu
Once again, every time you type on you keyboard, you demonstrate how foolish you are. The MYTHology is the crap spewed the Benny Hill gang.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
flight1 is lying, pure and simple [Repost 4 due to censor trolls]
Unless of course he's so stupid his computer was already infected. Seems possible.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
For the record (Ahahahaha like they'll let this one stay up) [Repost 6 due to censor trolls]
Contrary to "going batshit", I am positively delighted that you censor trolls keep at it. I've explained why a dozen times, but... You. Just. Don't. Get it. It's amusing, for example, that in the same post Mantis tells me not to label those who disagree with me as fascist or Taliban, he labels me wacky and insane. If we're so crazy, Mantis, why can't you let our posts stay up to show that? Oh right, YOU'RE not marking anything "offensive"... just a sec, I'm sure that was a pig flying by my window.
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 4:56 PM
@Uatu
Once again, every time you type on you keyboard, you demonstrate how foolish you are. The MYTHology is the crap spewed the Benny Hill gang.
* Agree 1
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
flight1 is lying, pure and simple [Repost 4 due to censor trolls]
Unless of course he's so stupid his computer was already infected. Seems possible.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
For the record (Ahahahaha like they'll let this one stay up) [Repost 6 due to censor trolls]
Contrary to "going batshit", I am positively delighted that you censor trolls keep at it. I've explained why a dozen times, but... You. Just. Don't. Get it. It's amusing, for example, that in the same post Mantis tells me not to label those who disagree with me as fascist or Taliban, he labels me wacky and insane. If we're so crazy, Mantis, why can't you let our posts stay up to show that? Oh right, YOU'RE not marking anything "offensive"... just a sec, I'm sure that was a pig flying by my window.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
Through the looking glass [Repost 8 due to censor trolls]
Dear BurningEars, oops, ConcernedResident: It's not YOUR posts that are being obliterated. I WANT your posts online, they make you look like a fascist. The Muse doesn't have two logins, either. Link me to a single post that she's made that's not from MISSISSAUGAWATCH. Oh wait, you can't. [Oops! I was wrong, she does have more than one, but I'm leaving this in the repost for accuracy.] This will come as a shock to you, I know, but your OPINION is irrelevant. So is mine, for that matter. FACTS matter. I have them. The Muse has tons of them. You don't. So censor away, it makes us look good and you look like, well, fascist censors.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:54 PM
@Muse: Facts offend fascists [Repost 8 due to censor trolls]
Stating a fact, supported with evidence, offends those who can't stand the truth. "This statement contradicts my delusion! Offensive! Must... delete..." If they truly believed they were right, these trolls wouldn't care what we posted. They can't leave our posts up because any objective observer can plainly see the truth. Mustn't let the truth get in the way of a good MYTH.
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:53 PM
MYTHissauga censor trolls are at it again [Repost 10 due to censor trolls]
I notice that the trolls can't even abide answers to the questions they ask. These people would feel right at home in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Maybe they're the ones who should move. I notice they even deleted The Spudder's innocent question about where the other posts went. No thoughts other than theirs allowed!
Uatu May 5, 2010 4:53 PM
@Spudder, it's the censor trolls! [Repost 11 due to censor trolls]
Spudder, if a post is marked offfensive three times it vanishes. Certain censor trolls are running around getting rid of anything they disagree with. They don't believe that anyone should be allowed to express an opinion that doesn't conform with theirs. They will even disagree with facts backed by evidence and they mark facts they don't like as offensive. (How pathetic is that?) Consequently, posts by me, the MIssissauga Muse, Canadians, Think About It, WatcherOIO, and possibly others are often attacked as soon as they go up, especially if they are critical of the CIty in any way. Welcome to MYTHissauga!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:51 PM
Pssst ConcernedResident, read this...
The Mississauga Moose sent May 5, 2010 4:34 PM "Do you think then maybe J. Douglas Cunningham might get what's really truly happening here in Mississauga? And then he could launch an inquistion and rout out the scoundrels and everyone would then see the truth for what it really is, right? Then maybe, just maybe, you could be the Mayor!" REPEAT (as anyone knows who's watched the video I posted to YouTube January 4, 2010) I have no intention of being Mayor just experiencing the fraud of a Mississauga municipal election and discover precisely WHY no politician has summoned the b***s to challenge her. I mean look around here at what happens to comments where I simply post a link to the April 30, 2010 Mississauga Judicial Inquiry court transcripts. A "Friend of Hazel" lies that it's got a virus and spyware. AND 6 Agree. Like I said in a message erased here a couple days ago. Mississauga is morally beyond redemption. And thank you for doing YOUR parts. * Agree 5 * | * Disagree * | * Offensive
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Uatu May 5, 2010 4:49 PM
@Moose: no inquisition
Justice Cunnigham has a narrow mandate and can't possibly deal with all or even much of the rot at the Corporation of the City of Mississauga. He might expose some of it. The funniest post of the day goes to ConcernedResident, who obliviously posted inadvertent turht forr once. Yes, Justice Cunningham WILL know he is dealing with mythology. MYTHissauga mythology.
Randy May 5, 2010 4:46 PM
muse & Uatu
Its a beautiful day outside. Why not take a break from spamming and go for a walk. Would do you both good.
* Agree 3
Mantis May 5, 2010 4:45 PM
@ConcernedResident
Justice Cunningham probably already has a pretty good idea as to what he's dealing with in regards to the "citizen journalists!" LOL. Trying to interrupt the proceedings to show him videos of something as completely pointless and irrelevant as supposedly deleted posts on this page will certainly erase any doubt.
* Agree 3 Offensive 1
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:45 PM
This message sent at May 5, 2010 4:39 PM was erased by 4:44 pm
@ ConcernedResident, too true You wrote, re: "At least then Justice Cunningham will know what he is dealing with. More MYTHology." Actually the data will show precisely what Mississauga voters must contend with. People like you, Mantis and flight1. Notice for example that flight1's message where he lies about the link that I'd provided to the April 30, 2010 Mississauga Judicial Inquiry hearing contained a virus and spyware has "Agree 6"s and NO "Offensive"s. Not a one. Why? You are correct in that I could hit "Offensive", so could "Uatu" and all it would take is one other person and flight1's lie to readers would be erased. You are correct when you write, " Justice Cunningham will know what he is dealing with. More MYTHology." flight1 and 6 Others only too happy to discourage people from reading the court transcripts for themselves!
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The Mississauga Moose May 5, 2010 4:34 PM
@ MW
You wrote: "Yes, am recording this with video (including this send), photographed and printscreened. Will actually submit it all to the J. Douglas Cunningham to show what I meant by Truth suffocated at Birth in MYTHissauga." Do you think then maybe J. Douglas Cunningham might get what's really truly happening here in Mississauga? And then he could launch an inquistion and rout out the scoundrels and everyone would then see the truth for what it really is, right? Then maybe, just maybe, you could be the Mayor!
* Agree 6
ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 4:28 PM
What she said
Muse says (oops - it's Mississaugawatch today) "Yes, am recording this with video (including this send), photographed and printscreened. Will actually submit it all to the J. Douglas Cunningham to show what I meant by Truth suffocated at Birth in MYTHissauga." At least then Justice Cunningham will know what he is dealing with. More MYTHology.
* Agree 5
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 4:13 PM
To "Private" not sure who you are... but
Yep, There are "6 Agrees" agreeing with flight1 that the link I provided http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc "has a virus and spyware". And not just that but all THREE of my messages trying to tell people the truth, that no, http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc is the same as the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry link http://mail.tscript.com/trans/mississauga/apr_30_10/index.htm are already at "2 Offensives". They are respectively May 5, 2010 3:48 PM, May 5, 2010 3:47 PM and May 5, 2010 3:44 PM and I fully expect them erased when I send this one off. Yes, am recording this with video (including this send), photographed and printscreened. Will actually submit it all to the J. Douglas Cunningham to show what I meant by Truth suffocated at Birth in MYTHissauga.
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Private May 5, 2010 3:56 PM
OMG!! @ 3:53 there are 6 agrees.
Is anybody recording this and posting it on you tube? Can you believe what's happining here?
* Agree 3
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 3:56 PM
Witness the campaign tactics of the Mayor Who Doesn't Campaign
In his May 5, 2010 2:40 PM comment flight1 "warns" people, After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better." At 3:53 pm, 6 have Agreed. That means seven people are lying when they say that the link http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc has a virus and spyware. The fact is that http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc is simply takes you to the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry April 30, 2010 court transcript. So... let's see what we got here.. "ConcernedResident" (God), "Mantis" (Guns) "flight1' (LIES). What else does ANY government need to stay in Power? * Agree 6 * | * Disagree * | * Offensive
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 3:48 PM
Oops. At 3:47 pm there are now "5 Agrees" that the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry website has viruses and spyware.
light1's stats: "After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better. * Agree 5" Witness the evil of MYTHissauga.
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flight1 May 5, 2010 2:40 PM
After copying and pasting the link provided by Mississaugawatch, My computer now has a virus along with a bunch of spyware. Should have known better.
* Agree 6
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 2:21 PM
This "diatribe" was posted by Watcher May 2, 2010 10:00 PM and DELETED
@ Canadians Jim Murray and the police thing - can you supply more details as to what you mean.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 2:20 PM
This "diatribe" was posted May 3, 2010 11:01 AM and DELETED four times
Read for yourself --and complete, unaltered video of this hearing will be available today For those interested, the April 30, 2010 Judicial Inquiry transcript are now online at: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 10:19 AM
@Uatu
How is it you call me "Burning Ears" (yet another label by you) then you show up a scant 7 minutes after Mantis posts a comment about you with a reply? And, of course, we still don't get it. How again, does deleting your comments make one a fascist, or (ha-ha-ha) Taliban? And to accuse either Mantis or myself of getting your posts deleted is absolutely side-splitting. We are the ones that want you exposed for your idiocy. Why would we want to spare you the infamy? Sorry boy, your barking up the wrong tree on that one.
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Mantis May 5, 2010 10:08 AM
@Uatu
Do you also hear voices Uatu???? Has it not occurred to you that your wacky and over the top reaction first to being disagreed with and then to having your posts marked offensive is the cause of your posts being automatically marked offensive by visitors to this site? Maybe other visitors to this site find your antics as hilarious as the regulars here do.
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 10:08 AM
Thank You Mantis
Applause!
* Agree 2
Uatu May 5, 2010 9:54 AM
For the record (Ahahahaha like they'll let this one stay up)
Contrary to "going batshit", I am positively delighted that you censor trolls keep at it. I've explained why a dozen times, but... You. Just. Don't. Get it. It's amusing, for example, that in the same post Mantis tells me not to label those who disagree with me as fascist or Taliban, he labels me wacky and insane. If we're so crazy, Mantis, why can't you let our posts stay up to show that? Oh right, YOU'RE not marking anything "offensive"... just a sec, I'm sure that was a pig flying by my window.
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Mantis May 5, 2010 9:47 AM
Hilarity Ensues
Watching Uatu go bat-sh*t over his offensive posts being removed is hilarious. Even funnier he thinks it's me, ConcernedResident and presumably Santa Claus along with the Easter Bunny who is doing it. If you don't like getting your posts marked as offensive, don't post offensive drivel such as labelling those who disagree with you as fascists or Taliban. It's really that easy. You wacky Barberites have run amok and hijacked this site for too long. If your insane rantings don't get this comment feature permenantly disabled, we'll finally see some balance around here as regular Mississaugans - those who don't have such a hate-on for this city and it's leadership - begin posting more and more often.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 9:33 AM
Through the looking glass [Repost 2 due to censor trolls]
Dear BurningEars, oops, ConcernedResident: It's not YOUR posts that are being obliterated. I WANT your posts online, they make you look like a fascist. The Muse doesn't have two logins, either. Link me to a single post that she's made that's not from MISSISSAUGAWATCH. Oh wait, you can't. [Oops! I was wrong, she does have more than one, but I'm leaving this in the repost for accuracy.] This will come as a shock to you, I know, but your OPINION is irrelevant. So is mine, for that matter. FACTS matter. I have them. The Muse has tons of them. You don't. So censor away, it makes us look good and you look like, well, fascist censors.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 9:32 AM
@Muse: Facts offend fascists [Repost 2 due to censor trolls]
Stating a fact, supported with evidence, offends those who can't stand the truth. "This statement contradicts my delusion! Offensive! Must... delete..." If they truly believed they were right, these trolls wouldn't care what we posted. They can't leave our posts up because any objective observer can plainly see the truth. Mustn't let the truth get in the way of a good MYTH.
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Uatu May 5, 2010 9:32 AM
MYTHissauga censor trolls are at it again [Repost 4 due to censor trolls]
I notice that the trolls can't even abide answers to the questions they ask. These people would feel right at home in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Maybe they're the ones who should move. I notice they even deleted The Spudder's innocent question about where the other posts went. No thoughts other than theirs allowed!
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Uatu May 5, 2010 9:32 AM
@Spudder, it's the censor trolls! [Repost 5 due to censor trolls]
Spudder, if a post is marked offfensive three times it vanishes. Certain censor trolls are running around getting rid of anything they disagree with. They don't believe that anyone should be allowed to express an opinion that doesn't conform with theirs. They will even disagree with facts backed by evidence and they mark facts they don't like as offensive. (How pathetic is that?) Consequently, posts by me, the MIssissauga Muse, Canadians, Think About It, WatcherOIO, and possibly others are often attacked as soon as they go up, especially if they are critical of the CIty in any way. Welcome to MYTHissauga!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 5, 2010 7:54 AM
ConcernedResident's NON-Science
ConcernedResident writes, "Her diatribes keep getting erased, so she goes on the attack, accusing "friends of Hazel", "UNtaggers" of chicanery." They've GOT to be "Friends of Hazel" because they ain't Friends of Mine. And to point out comments of a pure informational nature, that is, containing only links to the Judicial Inquiry court transcripts for April 30, 2010 were also erased. As were the links to the unaltered 85-minute video of the hearing. As for your stupid-STUPID "Did you notice the hint of a threat? Yes, the word "lawyer" was in her post." Look UP. Look waaaaay up. At the title of this article, "Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer". Henry Ford and Hazel McCallion were right. Consulting people is useless. Sooooooooo DUHHHHmmmmb!
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ConcernedResident May 5, 2010 7:44 AM
Muse's Dilema
Her diatribes keep getting erased, so she goes on the attack, accusing "friends of Hazel", "UNtaggers" of chicanery. Uatu calls them "trolls". The she says "The article, Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer confirms 52 messages posted since April 20, 2010. As of May 4, 2010, just 17 comments remain. 32% —almost 70% of messages wiped clean. Did you notice the hint of a threat? Yes, the word "lawyer" was in her post. This is how far she has stooped to get her message out.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 11:48 PM
DELETION STATS FOR this article plus Rogers Cable 10 Stats (Mayor enjoys 30 hours of free campaign television)
The article, Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer confirms 52 messages posted since April 20, 2010. As of May 4, 2010, just 17 comments remain. 32% —almost 70% of messages wiped clean. Some of these included pure information to readers like links to the April 30, 2010 Inquiry hearing video. By contrast, Hazel McCallion enjoyed 15 free hours of Rogers Cable 10 televising her "documentary" and will look forward to (cut-and-paste) Part 4: Sunday, May 9 8:00 PM Monday, May 10 1:00 AM & 10:30 PM Friday, May 14 2:30 PM & 10:30 PM Part 5: Sunday, May 16 8:00 PM Monday, May 17 1:00 AM & 10:30 PM Friday, May 21 2:30 PM & 10:30 PM Part 6: Sunday, May 23 8:00 PM Monday, May 24 1:00 AM & 10:30 PM Friday, May 28 2:30 PM & 10:30 PM. I enter this fully expecting that this comment will also be deleted.
Mantis May 4, 2010 10:12 PM
Maybe you should "think about it"
Maybe you should think about it.....then you'd realize that like most people, the mayor doesn't have a Facebook site.
Think About It May 4, 2010 10:04 PM
Simple facts confirm Ms McCallion lost her entire Facebook fan clubs because the inquiry set her back a full month of bum steer campaigning
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/search/?flt=1&q=Hazel%20McCallion&o=65&sid=625208831.51590571..1
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 8:33 PM
Posting this on behalf of ConcernedResident who posted this on "Apr 29, 2010 5:47 PM. Reposted after another deletion about an hour ago (Title) @Muse (THIRD RE-SEND)
Don't worry ConcernedResident! I rescued your comments (THIRD REPOSTING ON BEHALF OF His One) Posting this on behalf of ConcernedResident who posted this on "Apr 29, 2010 5:47 PM. Reposted after another deletion about an hour ago (Title) @Muse (and he wrote) With every new post, you take delusional to another level. Are you honestly refering to yourself as "The One"...? That is offensive to me. There is only one being who can refer to Himself that way. And you are definitely not Him. Yes, this time I clicked offensive. (and what follows shows why I grabbed it just at the last minute.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 8:27 PM
@ Concerned Resident
You wrote, "What a load! Accuses others about posting under multiple alias's, when she uses two (Mississaugawatch & Mississauga Muse - that good for two of 3 offensives, and Uatu does the 3rd)." I agree completely. Except. As I've said, I never hit "Offensive" unless the comment is racist or (which I've never seen) would have the F-word spelled out completely. Actually I have THREE ID's (MISSISSAUGAWATCH, Mississauga Muse and MISSISSAUGA.CA) There was a while where I couldn't figure out why my avatar showed only a shadow. Then I realized what had happened. My first logins here were the MIssissauga Muse. Until I established MISSISSAUGAWATCH. I use WWW.MISSISSAUGAWATCH.CA over at the Toronto Star --when I remember to do so. But one thing I will not do is hit "Offensive" because I've contributed 1/3 to killing someone's Voice. Even one as loathsome as yours I will not erase. Which reminds me. I've an "Offensive" of yours that I've rescued.
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 7:23 PM
@ Concerned Resident
You wrote, "They just don't understand how ANYONE cannot believe what they spew. Muse rattles on about being the saviour of the City with the "they came for the.....". What a load!" Oh MY! Me, being "saviour of the City"? Four years of observation (anniversary tomororw) and three years of Freedom of Information confirm that this City is morally beyond redemption. I am only The Witness. And to avoid the uncertainty of the they-saids, I-saids, I accept only audio/videotape or Freedom of Information as evidence. And offer that to the public. I will not say/write anything that I don't have irrefutable proof for. (Gah! Why am I writing to someone who won't accept audio/video, Freedom of Information or scholarly research like Tom Urbaniak?...) What's happening here though, (I've set up several observation articles) demonstrates that precisely when Rogers Cable 10 TV is exalting the Mayor to the skies in 6-part harmony, her "Friends of Hazel" here DELETE everything an inconsequential "fringe" challenger posts for co
ConcernedResident May 4, 2010 5:00 PM
@Mantis
They just don't understand how ANYONE cannot believe what they spew. Muse rattles on about being the saviour of the City with the "they came for the.....". What a load! Accuses others about posting under multiple alias's, when she uses two (Mississaugawatch & Mississauga Muse - that good for two of 3 offensives, and Uatu does the 3rd). As I have mentioned before, perhaps it's not the content the "UNtaggers" (love how she has a label for everything) find offensive. If we are going to quote from history, heres one - There was a story about the boy that cried wolf...... People just get sick of hearing the same broken record over and over. It's always "they did this or they did that" Just once, I'd love to hear what Muse would do if Mayor. Realistic, not pie in the sky stuff. The stuff that politicians deal with on a daily basis. But then, that's why leaders lead. There are those who can get elected and those that will NEVER get elected. They are the ones who stand on the sidelines and tell everyone else the sky
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Uatu May 4, 2010 6:15 PM
Through the looking glass
Dear BurningEars, oops, ConcernedResident: It's not YOUR posts that are being obliterated. I WANT your posts online, they make you look like a fascist. The Muse doesn't have two logins, either. Link me to a single post that she's made that's not from MISSISSAUGAWATCH. Oh wait, you can't. This will come as a shock to you, I know, but your OPINION is irrelevant. So is mine, for that matter. FACTS matter. I have them. The Muse has tons of them. You don't. So censor away, it makes us look good and you look like, well, fascist censors.
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ConcernedResident May 4, 2010 5:00 PM
@Mantis
They just don't understand how ANYONE cannot believe what they spew. Muse rattles on about being the saviour of the City with the "they came for the.....". What a load! Accuses others about posting under multiple alias's, when she uses two (Mississaugawatch & Mississauga Muse - that good for two of 3 offensives, and Uatu does the 3rd). As I have mentioned before, perhaps it's not the content the "UNtaggers" (love how she has a label for everything) find offensive. If we are going to quote from history, heres one - There was a story about the boy that cried wolf...... People just get sick of hearing the same broken record over and over. It's always "they did this or they did that" Just once, I'd love to hear what Muse would do if Mayor. Realistic, not pie in the sky stuff. The stuff that politicians deal with on a daily basis. But then, that's why leaders lead. There are those who can get elected and those that will NEVER get elected. They are the ones who stand on the sidelines and tell everyone else the sky
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Uatu May 4, 2010 4:42 PM @Muse: Facts offend fascists
Stating a fact, supported with evidence, offends those who can't stand the truth. "This statement contradicts my delusion! Offensive! Must... delete..."
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 4:38 PM
Uh, all these "DELETE"/BIAS/FABRICATE experiences are exactly what happens at the City of Mississauga too
DOCUMENTS, MISSISSAUGA CORPORATE SECURITY SPECIAL OCCURRENCE REPORTS, MINUTES OF MEETINGS. Even documented by Tom Urbaniak! And the City slogan is "Trust, Quality, Excellence"! (Isn't that a hoot?)
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 4:28 PM
GET REAL MANTIS! EVEN MY LINKS TO THE MISSISSAUGA JUDICIAL INQUIRY VIDEO AND COURT TRANSCRIPTS HAVE BEEN ERASED.
Example of third deletion [BEGIN] "Friends of Hazel" delete link to April 30, 2010 Mississauga Judicial Inquiry hearing Reposting comment originally sent May 3, 2010 11:01 AM to inform Mississauga residents of link to Judicial Inquiry website [BEGIN] Read for yourself --and complete, unaltered video of this hearing will be available today For those interested, the April 30, 2010 Judicial Inquiry transcript are now online at: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc [END] You define "Offensive" as even the link to the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry April 30, 2010 unaltered video! In the article, (HAHAHA) "Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer" Get real. Now I know how McCallion got her honest rep. She lets her vast legion of supporters do the lying and dirty work. Love ya!
Uatu May 4, 2010 4:11 PM
Concerning "offensive"
I actually like to get one or two offensives to something that plainly isn't, because it shows how low some people will stoop. On the other hand, it is perfectly understandable that some people will mark personal attacks "offensive." ConcernedResident has been engaging in such attacks for a while now; Mantis also to a lesser extent. If they get deleted for three offensives, that would be a shame. I really want their posts to remain for all to see. They're a terrific asset. I'm tired of explaining to them why this is so, but it's hilarious watching them do this.
Mantis May 4, 2010 4:00 PM
Don't Be offensive
If you don't like readers of this site clicking "offensive" next to your drivel, don't post such offensive comments. It's a pretty simple concept to understand.
Uatu May 4, 2010 3:36 PM
MYTHissauga censor trolls are at it again [Repost 2 due to censor trolls]
I notice that the trolls can't even abide answers to the questions they ask. These people would feel right at home in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Maybe they're the ones who should move. I notice they even deleted The Spudder's innocent question about where the other posts went. No thoughts other than theirs allowed!
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Uatu May 4, 2010 3:36 PM
@Spudder, it's the censor trolls! [Repost 3 due to censor trolls]
Spudder, if a post is marked offfensive three times it vanishes. Certain censor trolls are running around getting rid of anything they disagree with. They don't believe that anyone should be allowed to express an opinion that doesn't conform with theirs. They will even disagree with facts backed by evidence and they mark facts they don't like as offensive. (How pathetic is that?) Consequently, posts by me, the MIssissauga Muse, Canadians, Think About It, WatcherOIO, and possibly others are often attacked as soon as they go up, especially if they are critical of the CIty in any way. Welcome to MYTHissauga!
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 3:34 PM
South Carolina South Carolina General Assembly have been duped too! (cut off_
...Mayor McCallion does not campaign during elections and refuses to accept political donations, instead asking her supporters to donate the money to charity.." and now knowing precisely why, the printscreens http://tinyurl.com/32arwoe and video will be sent to the South Carolina South Carolina General Assembly so they know precisely how Hazel McCallion stayed in power. DELETE. DELETE. DELETE. delete....
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 3:33 PM
South Carolina South Carolina General Assembly have been duped too! HAHAHAHAH
2009-2010 Bill 4761: Mayor Hazel C. M. McCallion - South Carolina South Carolina General Assembly 118th Session, 2009-2010 - 3 May 24 Mar 2010 ... That the members of the South Carolina House of Representatives QUOTE "A HOUSE RESOLUTION TO HONOR HER WORSHIP MAYOR HAZEL MCCALLION, C.M., OF MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO, CANADA, FOR HER MANY YEARS OF DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE, AND TO EXTEND TO HER A CORDIAL WELCOME TO THE PALMETTO STATE UPON THE OCCASION OF HER ADDRESS TO THE JEAN LANEY HARRIS MEMORIAL LUNCHEON ON MARCH 24, 2010, IN COLUMBIA.... Whereas, handily reelected for the last twenty years, with no serious challengers even coming close to unseating her as mayor of the city, Mayor McCallion does not campaign during elections and refuses to accept political donations, instead asking her supporters to donate the money to charity.." and now knowing precisely why, the printscreens http://tinyurl.com/32arwoe and video will be sent to the South Carolina South Carolina General Assembly so they know precisely how Hazel Mc
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 3:29 PM
Mississauga News search engine confirms (40) comments sent to this article. 11 remain (this one will be 12)
FACT1: 11/40 messages deleted. "Apr 30, 2010 Recommended (40) | 1 Recommended Inquiry will hurt campaign: Lawyer" FACT2. Concerned Resident challenges me with "@Muse It's funny. You have been on this comment section for quite a while, and (in my opinion) you hijack and twist every story to your anti-Mississauga rants. It is so easy to be negative, but often when pressed the nay-sayers have no idea what they stand for. You are running for election. You can down play it all you want, but the fact is you paid your $$$, and are registered as a candidate. Just what is it do you stand for? What is your vision for this City? Do you have a vision, or is is just your goal to say what others are doing is wrong. You are on the clock, and we are waiting...... * Agree 5 * Disagree 1" FACT: I answer with four messages about my positive mayoral vision for Mississauga, Peel, and Ontario. ALL is deleted. FACT: I've compiled THREE articles into the ""FRIENDS OF HAZEL" 2010 CAMPAIGN STRATEGY " set at: http://tinyurl.com/
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 2:36 PM
FOUR OF MY COMMENT AFTER Mantis' May 4, 2010 12:56 pm HAVE BEEN DELETED BY "FRIENDS OF HAZEL"
They include "Mantis, Mantis, Mantis, tsk tsk, you KNOW the Answer" May 4, 2010 1:22 PM, "@ Mantis, cut off" May 4, 2010 1:26 PM, May 4, 2010 1:36 PM, "Mantis would have people believe I hate Mississauga. Nope." May 4, 2010 1:36 PM and (ironically) ""Friends of Hazel" DELETE doth begin (This one's May 4, 2010 1:26 PM already at 2 Offensives) reposting" May 4, 2010 2:10 PM. This systemically deletion proves the Old Guard "Friends of Hazel" strategy exists. Currently Hazel McCallion has a 6-part documentary singing her praises on Rogers Cable 10. And the likes of ConcernedResident/Mantis et al deny even basic factual information in a readers' comment section. Here's the killer. EVEN THE LINKS TO THE UNALTERED MISSISSAUGA JUDICIAL INQUIRY APRIL 30, 2010 VIDEO *AND* TRANSCRIPT, THAT IS PURE INFORMATION, HAS BEEN DELETED.
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Mantis May 4, 2010 12:56 PM
@ConcernedResident
I agree. I've often wondered why, these people who quite obviously hate Mississauga with a passion, continue to live in this city? Why don't they move to a city that isn't as "evil" as they seem to think this one is? What really gets me is that they stamp their feet and slam anyone who disagrees with here and ignore the fact that 95% of those who vote disagree with them. Most people would probably get a clue that they're WRONG in their thinking when faced with such an overwhelming number of people who think they're nuts.
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ConcernedResident May 4, 2010 11:50 AM
@Muse
It's funny. You have been on this comment section for quite a while, and (in my opinion) you hijack and twist every story to your anti-Mississauga rants. It is so easy to be negative, but often when pressed the nay-sayers have no idea what they stand for. You are running for election. You can down play it all you want, but the fact is you paid your $$$, and are registered as a candidate. Just what is it do you stand for? What is your vision for this City? Do you have a vision, or is is just your goal to say what others are doing is wrong. You are on the clock, and we are waiting.......
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Canadians May 4, 2010 8:43 AM
MAYOR HAZEL IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN. Time 8:29 AM Tuesday.
Mayor Hazel is EIGHTY-NINE years old. Her shipp is docking and she's getting off. Her pressure on Commisioner Cunningham is disgraceful and revealing. Regaining control of city council by planting her sycophants here and there or having them rant over yet another" Rob Peter to pay Paul story" (happens everywhere) does not cover up the fact that her boat is a' rocking and docking. The fact is, it looks like, she and her SHIPPSTERS are preparing to attempt to transfer power to an annointed one and they're @#$% because thousands of people in this city know it; stil they still machinate. Sorta like the Armada. All the bombastic rants and "squash the message internet trolling" is a rather undignified way to drop anchor; best to just wave good-bye and start a new chapter in this city and retire the whole team. Good-bye.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 8:22 AM
Mississauga News says there are "21" comments here, yet alone 10 remain.
This comment should register as the 22nd. Almost 50% of comments deleted by UNtaggers...
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 4, 2010 8:18 AM
MISSISSAUGA JUDICIAL INQUIRY: April 30, 2010 Blog, video and transcript now online
Blog: MISSISSAUGA JUDICIAL INQUIRY: April 30, 2010 –a motion filed by The Mississauga News calling for Peter McCallion’s affidavit, etc (in its entirety 85:21 min) at: http://tinyurl.com/2cr3bbe. Blog includes only the video, the transcript and the caveat, "As the videographer, please note that I am only one of two mayoral candidates challenging Hazel McCallion in the 2010 Mississauga municipal election and we are both considered fringe candidates."
Stephen Wahl May 3, 2010 10:46 PM
None are so blind
As those who will not see
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Stephen Wahl May 3, 2010 10:46 PM
None are so deaf
As those who will not hear
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Stephen Wahl May 3, 2010 10:45 PM
Seek
And yea shall find
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Stephen Wahl May 3, 2010 10:44 PM
Listen
And yea shall hear
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Uatu May 3, 2010 5:41 PM
@Spudder, it's the censor trolls!
Spudder, if a post is marked offfensive three times it vanishes. Certain censor trolls are running around getting rid of anything they disagree with. They don't believe that anyone should be allowed to express an opinion that doesn't conform with theirs. They will even disagree with facts backed by evidence and they mark facts they don't like as offensive. (How pathetic is that?) Consequently, posts by me, the MIssissauga Muse, Canadians, Think About It, WatcherOIO, and possibly others are often attacked as soon as they go up, especially if they are critical of the CIty in any way. Welcome to MYTHissauga!
The Spudder May 3, 2010 4:23 PM
Where did the other comments go?
Why have the rest of the comments disappeared?? Can't wait until May 25th, no hiding then!!!!
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 2, 2010 10:36 PM
@ Canadians
You wrote, "b) It IS up to the voters; yet, they're sleeping sheep and the Mayor's clan have had their way for sure; but, maybe it's the end of an era. Time waits for no one; we are all it's prisoners." There's where you're mistaken. Voters only care about high property values and low taxes. That's IT. Nothing else matters. Even if McCallion were to actually tell them the Truth. Ie: "We've duped you all these years, each budget we've cut more and more services to the bone, nickled and dimed you while our employees have prospered both in salaries and benefits and played you for the chumps you are now vote for me", they would. Joke in the 60's. Kruschev insisted to Kennedy that the Soviet Union was a democracy. "You can vote for any Communist you want." Same here in MYTHissauga (likely most municipalities), One Message gets out. Province, Feds, Media complicit. Great scam, actually.
WatcherOIO May 2, 2010 10:00 PM
@ Canadians
Jim Murray and the police thing - can you supply more details as to what you mean.
Canadians May 2, 2010 9:08 PM
Hi Folks,
a) I do not support Jim Murray for Mayor or any employment with the city; I was just observing that first he's in and then he's out of the Police thing after a couple of months --------------- and no one is asking why or talking about it? In fact, the lack of snarky put-down blogs is kinda worryisome. DEEPLY TROUBLING indeed. b) It IS up to the voters; yet, they're sleeping sheep and the Mayor's clan have had their way for sure; but, maybe it's the end of an era. Time waits for no one; we are all it's prisoners.
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 2, 2010 8:43 PM
@ DeValera
DeValera you wrote, "If one asks a life insurance friend to show them a mortality table - it really is not a great bet to leave the inquiry on hold 'until later'. There might be a key witness unable to attend." Funny. I remember Nando Iannicca's 2006 campaign speech (have it on video). He said he believes that the Mayor will live to be 100. Not only do I think too but I hope so. Having said that, Canadians tossing up Jim Murray's name for Mayor is DEEPLY troubling. I've observed that bad actor at Peel Police Services Board meetings since 2007. And I disagree with Canadians (sorry). It is NOT up to the voters who is next Mayor of MYTHissauga. MYTHissauga Inc decides who will be next Mayor and then Make It So. I've had a taste of their campaign strategy right here last Friday. Inspired me to coin a new term. UNtag. Here. See for yourself. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43172810@N00/4563177775/
MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 2, 2010 8:37 PM
Requesting opinions from (most) people here.
I am planning to upload video of Friday's Judicial Inquiry to Vimeo (allows longer videos than YouTube). But here is the problem. Once the Mayor's lawyer got up there and starting making noises about how if the Judicial Inquiry goes on past September 11th, it'll hurt the Mayor's campaign. Yep, the very person who right now has a 6-part campaign documentary going on at Rogers Cable 10 is worried that the Judicial Inquiry might hurt her chances "when she's trying to get re-elected". Here's the question. I believe that I should have a caption that explains that the videographer (me) is also the Mayor's challenger this election. I mean technically it's a kind of "conflict of interest" even though I only signed up to be able to write about losing the 2010 Mayoral election from the inside. I feel rather silly because I have zero chance but there's an obligation to inform the viewer... Interested in (most) opinions here.
Canadians May 1, 2010 10:07 AM
MY SUGGESTIONS TO PUT HIS NAME IN THE HAT....
CHARLES SOUSA, MPP FOR MISSISSAUGA SOUTH. PAUL SZABO - THE HARDEST WORKING MP IN OTTAWA. DAVID CULLEN, OMB AND FORMER COUNCILLOR.
Canadians May 1, 2010 10:03 AM
MAYBE THE MAYOR IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN
Obviously, if Mayor Hazel runs she’ll win. Her arguments are therefore lame, unless she isn’t running but her ‘anointed’ one is. Her buddy, Jim Murray, just resigned from the Polices Services Board – within months of being reappointed. No explanation was given and none appears to have been asked. Is he, her next one? (Sorry Sid the Kid) It’s not much of a stretch considering Ted Woloshyn has already lifted the veil a bit with his Toronto Sun article about Mississauga after Hazel. Guess what, the cronies don’t decide; voters decide; some credible citizen should step up put his/her name into the Mayor’s race. Any suggestions?
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ConcernedResident Apr 30, 2010 6:37 PM
@Think About It
So that's your problem - incontinence!!! LMAO
DeValera Apr 30, 2010 5:56 PM
I don't want to play the age card but there might not be later....
If one asks a life insurance friend to show them a mortality table - it really is not a great bet to leave the inquiry on hold "until later". There might be a key witness unable to attend.
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Canadians Apr 30, 2010 5:29 PM
HURT HER CAMPAIGN?
She has no signs; last election she was on tour in Japan (I think) and she's currently running against her shadow??? And her internet trolls are working overtime already. Is she " losing it" or what??
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Think About It Apr 30, 2010 3:58 PM
Laughing My Ass Off rolling on the Floor While Peeing My Pants
Ms McCallion has never stopped campaigning since her compulsion for cronic campaigning took over her life 24/7.
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The Spudder Apr 30, 2010 3:39 PM
Let's get started
Come on already, let's start this inquiry already. We have the Mayor's good name to clear. Let's not delay, get on with it. I know that if I had nothing to hide, as I am sure the Mayor does, then I would want to clear my name as soon as possible.
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MISSISSAUGAWATCH Apr 30, 2010 1:53 PM
Sorry, people but while I was videotaping, once the Mayor's lawyer went up there I had a tough time keeping a straight face!
(cut-and-pasted from "The News makes motion at inquiry.) The Mayor who boasts about not having to campaign (and has a legion of supporters right here deleting my comments) now raises concerns that her campaign against me (a "fringe" candidate) and this other guy will hurt her campaign. Also. Fully intend to post entire (unaltered) video for the public early this week. For the record, both the MissyNews lawyer and Peter McCallion's presented EXCELLENT arguments. That's why I said, I didn't change my opinion from going in, but now I'm not near as sure as I was before.
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