Scanned, recopied or Internet copy, if there are errors, please e-mail me with corrections: Opening comments: More at the end. "Lawyer wrong about campaign, mayor says" but what will the Mayor do regarding her lawyers slip-up? To the main Judicial Inquiry page - to the Hazel McCallion page. Mississauga News - May 7, 2010 - By John Stewart - jstewart@mississauga.net Lawyer wrong about campaign, mayor says When Mayor Hazel McCallion's lawyer asked a week ago to postpone the pending judicial inquiry if it stretches into the municipal election campaign, many people were caught by surprise. Comments by others - 73 - to this web-page at time of posting; MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 9, 2010 9:44 PM So Citizens can Decide for themselves. Complete video of the Mayor's Lawyer I've just uploaded Elizabeth McIntyre's "Inquiry will hurt campaign" presentation up to YouTube. Because YouTube limits videos to 10 minutes,it's broken down into two parts. The first, "HAZEL MCCALLION'S LAWYER, "Inquiry will hurt campaign" (COURT HEARING VIDEO Part 1 of 2)" is at: http://tinyurl.com/2dgzsjg And the second court hearing video, "HAZEL MCCALLION'S LAWYER, "Inquiry will hurt campaign" (COURT HEARING VIDEO Part 2 of 2)" is at: http://tinyurl.com/28pw6at . A reminder, the court transcript is at: http://tinyurl.com/27kp4qc Best wishes, MISSISSAUGAWATCH * Agree MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 8, 2010 4:06 PM @ Mantis You wrote to Theresa, " Oh and....Mississauga is not busy debating whether McCallion should run again - only the handful of Barberites in this city are doing so....You don't seem to have much of a grasp on what democracy is." Dictionary: "1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority" and the rule of the majority protects FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Even if just ONE person posts messages questioning whether McCallion should run again, THAT PERSON HAS THAT RIGHT! You told me to "Get a life"? You Get frikkin' CANADIAN! * Agree 1 Mantis May 8, 2010 12:59 PM @Therese Taylor Nothing is stopping any of those "Candidates" from running. Oh and....Mississauga is not busy debating whether McCallion should run again - only the handful of Barberites in this city are doing so. You have to understand that Mississauga's version of Benny Hill will never be mayor. He only gets 2 - 5% of the (as you put it 19 - 25% who vote) for good reason. You don't seem to have much of a grasp on what democracy is. * Agree 1 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 9:44 PM Parish, Did do a very good thing which seems to have been forgotten Parish lead the opening of the can of worms on the Enersource/Omers business which gave ludicrous sums to board members for little work and the fact that Omers has a 10% stake and veto power. That's part of what this valuable inquiry is all about and how the Mayor signed onto it that infamous deal and didn't acknowledge it until Parish lead the charge. Kudos to Parish. She may seem brash and embarrassing at times but at least she seems honest! * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 9:38 PM Everyone thinks she's unsinkable Molly Brown, but no one's willing to rock the boat I don't get it. In the past two decades no one will take this woman on. It's the perceived myth that's she's so popular. The facts remain: she only get's 90% of at most 25 % of the vote. That means 75% or more don't care or don't care for her. Which is it? If people love her so much, why don't more vote. I believe that many people are afraid to speak honestly about what they think, what they want because of the myth that Hazel is so popular. I once had a woman hug me at a public meeting because I said I didn't agree with McCallion. People like to go along. It's not easy to blow on Hazel's hallo. * Agree 4 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 9:12 PM @Therese Taylor Funny, I'd bet if you did a pole of Mississaugans they would not equate Parrish or Carlson with "serious candidate". What one notable thing have either done on Council. And I do not include trashing a poster of the Mayor in that. Why would Tory, who did not want the Toronto job, want Mississauga's. Szabo and Fonseka, no name value there. The 2006 Toronto turnout was only 39%, and that was with 44 wards, and a so-called race for mayor (LeDrew vs Miller). Brampton was around 30% as well. Sorry, you can't hang this on Hazel. * Agree 1 Canadians May 7, 2010 7:54 PM SEVEN DAYS AFTER lAWYER McIntyre makes her case... Mayor Hazel gets up a head of steam and tells everyone that her lawyer was wrong.....ya mean the Mayor was wrong. Let's hope that's the case, 'cause if it took her 7 days to realize why her position was wrong, well that tells us a lot about how MYTHissauga works. Right one day; wrong the next; back paddle do what it takes......... As Scotty once observed........'The truth is out there'. Yup, anyone seen it in MYTHissauga lately?? * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 7:19 PM You're Joking! Our So-called Democracy is 90% of the 19 - 25% who bother to vote! If we had some viable candidates, like John Tory, Paul Szabo, Peter Fonseka,Carolyn Parish or George Carleson who were serious contenders for the race, we'd have a debate about the issues. The only issue Mississaugua is debating at the moment is whether McCallion should run again. What about our public transit, Mississauga's remaining farmlands and woodlands? What about future energy issues? Development and who should pay for it? Our aging infrastructure? Currrently there's no debate and no democracy. Just one voice who doesn't even bother to tell us her vision. Just dismal voter turnout. Just more of the same. Mississauga is due for change! * Agree 4 Mantis May 7, 2010 7:02 PM @Therese We live in a DEMOCRACY.....In a DEMOCRACY, the majoriy decides and the overwhelming majority (90% ) say McCallion should stay. Who are you to decide that the 700,000 other residents (at least those of voting age) of the city are wrong? There is nothing stopping anyone from running. If there are no viable candidates now, there wouldn't be any if McCallion wasn't running. * Agree 1 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 5:46 PM Mayor Should Not Run Again 31 years is long enough, especially under the circumstances. Terms should be limited to two or three consecutive periods for Mayor and councillors.It's high time we had a real race in Mississauga. No viable candidates means no debate and no democracy. * Agree 4 Canadians May 7, 2010 5:01 PM MAYOR's CAMPAIGN CAN'T BE AFFECTED --- IF SHE'S NOT RUNNING AGAIN. Does this mean that the Mayor was getting serious negative blow-back on the original position, her lawyer espoused, so now the Mayor had to re-invent her position? " The suggestion that the mayor's campaigning needs somehow trump the needs of this inquiry" is concerning, McDowell said. "She will be treated with immaculate fairness." You bet it's a concern. Who approved Lawyer McIntyre's original position? Is there a new lawyer in the wind for the Mayor? Councillor McFadden pointed out : ..... 'but given the concern all of a sudden, I have to think something is going to be revealed that will give the residents of Mississauga something to seriously think about." Time will tell. Regardless, the Mayor should retire. This situation is almost a textbook case for the need for Term Limits. One must also consider that the Inquiry won't affect her campaign because she is not going to run again, as I've repeatedly observed might be what is possibly going to happen. Maybe the Inquiry will be the closer * Agree 5 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 4:23 PM Ursula You are very dedicated. Someday I hope the citizens of Mississauga will Thank You and Don Barber for your hard work trying to stay on top of the issues and make citizens aware. If The News prints my letter to the Editor that should be proof enough. They have to call me to verify I wrote it and it's so similar to my first posting here. Let's try to stick to the issues. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 4:19 PM Nice one Therese,You gave me an IDEA! You wrote, "The anonymity of Concerned Citizen and Mantis versus full disclosure on the part of the Muse and me." You know, that's RIGHT! I give full disclosure and I just Googled you and you've had comments published in Torstar as well as in the THE REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY OF PEEL GENERAL COMMITTEE M I N U T E S GC-2005-8. Let me cut-and-paste ConcernedResident's May 7, 2010 3:25 PM where he wrote "You have not answered how we know who you are? There is no way to prove that Therese Taylor is you." Why GOSH, that's not true at all! Let's you, me, ConcernedResident and Mantis all meet on the 12th floor City Hall restaurant and we'll flash our ID's! How's THAT for a genius idea! Why I'll even let ConcernedResident and Mantis suggest a time convenient for them! Can even invite the Mississauga News! And ConcernedResident writing "So until you live what you ask, don't ask others.", well, I'm askin' THEM! * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 4:17 PM 3 major issues to the story 1 minor to this blog (Fixed typos - ignore one below) Major: 1) Absurdity of McCallion's lawyer asking for the inquiry to be post-poned because the mayor's image may be tarnished by the inquiry. 2) McCallion wants taxpayers to have access to her but not to her testimony into conflict of interest charges. 3) As the News reported: "Material from the mayor's offfice has yet to be received by McDowell and, "that, I confess is slowing us up a bit." Minor: The anonymity of Concerned Citizen and Mantis versus disclosure by Tony Jackson, the Muse and me. Perhaps the Mississauga News will do me the favour by running the Letter to the Editor I sent which was a longer version of the first blog I posted. That will prove I am who I say I am. And of course I don't attend every council meeting. That doesn't make me a sheep. * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 4:07 PM 3 major issues to the story 1 minor to this blog 3 Major: 1) the absurdity of McCallion's lawyer asking for the inquiry to be post-poned because the mayor's image may be tarnished by the inquiry. 2)McCallion saying she wants taxpayers to have access to her but not to her testimony into conflict of interest charges. 2) As the News reported:"Material from the mayor's offfice has yet to be reecived by McDowell and, "that, I Major: 1) Absurdity of McCallion's lawyer asking for the inquiry to be post-poned because the mayor's image may be tarnished by the inquiry. 2) McCallion wants taxpayers to have access to her but not to her testimony into conflict of interest charges. 3) As the News reported: "Material from the mayor's offfice has yet to be received by McDowell and, "that, I confess is slowing us up a bit." Minor: The anonymity of Concerned Citizen and Mantis versus full disclosure on the part of the Muse and me. Perhaps the Mississauga News will do me the favour by running the Letter to the Editor I sent which was a longer version of the first blog * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 4:04 PM Serious municipal watchers will want to read National Post, Megan O'Toole's " Inquiry won't hurt election, McCallion says" Megan O'Toole, National Post writes, "Tom Urbaniak, a Cape Breton academic who has written extensively on Ms. McCallion's tenure, noted the last time the Mayor mounted any kind of election campaign was two decades ago, "and it was then merely a token effort." She has not faced a serious opponent in many years, garnering easy and convincing wins -- more than 90% of the vote in 2006." For the rest of O'Toole's article, " Inquiry won't hurt election, McCallion says" at http://tinyurl.com/2bn8zku * Agree 2 Tony Jackson May 7, 2010 3:56 PM Think!...... The Hazel persona may be still a wonder for many subordinate minds in Mississauga. But, this fragile old woman is surviving on the support of those vicious parasites (Friends of Hazel) who control the city and thrive on corruption and nepotism. * Agree 5 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:43 PM @ Mantis You wrote, "We have plenty of say and we are saying it. of course in the wacky world of you Barberite leftist Mississauga haters, anyone who disagrees with you has "nothing to say". How very Stalinist of you." Oh really. re: "anyone who disagree" with us... Have you read any of the Freedom of Information documents of City Staff's own emails? Have you looked at videos of Mississauga Audit Committees for that behind-the-scenes look at Mississauga in action? Video of the cheating of those sub-contractors? We're talking Primary Sources here --irrefutable proof. "leftist"? Next election I'm voting CONSERVATIVE because the Liberals... are the reason why Ontario IS the Pretend Province! There's no left or right to Truth. Truth is Science-based. Truth is SHOW ME. And if you can't SHOW, then that's BS-a-galloping. * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:38 PM Unfair to Hazel McCallion (Mantis and ConcernedResident don't read this). I'm getting uncomfortable with what's being said about Hazel McCallion. Perhaps it's because I worked up a video of her in a December 2008 Rogers "Mayor's Hour" but she was so patient and fair to the people who called in for her help. I've watched her in Audit Committee meetings. She insists on Staff keeping records, pay rigorous attention to contracts, supervise transactions, and dumps some major dumps on staff when they screwed up (routine). I've come to conclude that if Staff worked 3/4 as hard of McCallion does we'd have the city they trumpet. And video/Freedom of Information confirm that Staff lie to McCallion as much as to the Rogers cameras. Her failing is thinking that if she wants answers she "refers to Staff". Now that I blame her for. And that intellect inside that 89 year old head! I think she's the greatest politician in Canada right now! * Agree Mantis May 7, 2010 3:35 PM @Therese We have plenty of say and we are saying it. of course in the wacky world of you Barberite leftist Mississauga haters, anyone who disagrees with you has "nothing to say". How very Stalinist of you. * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 4:04 PM Serious municipal watchers will want to read National Post, Megan O'Toole's " Inquiry won't hurt election, McCallion says" Megan O'Toole, National Post writes, "Tom Urbaniak, a Cape Breton academic who has written extensively on Ms. McCallion's tenure, noted the last time the Mayor mounted any kind of election campaign was two decades ago, "and it was then merely a token effort." She has not faced a serious opponent in many years, garnering easy and convincing wins -- more than 90% of the vote in 2006." For the rest of O'Toole's article, " Inquiry won't hurt election, McCallion says" at http://tinyurl.com/2bn8zku * Agree 2 Tony Jackson May 7, 2010 3:56 PM Think!...... The Hazel persona may be still a wonder for many subordinate minds in Mississauga. But, this fragile old woman is surviving on the support of those vicious parasites (Friends of Hazel) who control the city and thrive on corruption and nepotism. * Agree 5 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:43 PM @ Mantis You wrote, "We have plenty of say and we are saying it. of course in the wacky world of you Barberite leftist Mississauga haters, anyone who disagrees with you has "nothing to say". How very Stalinist of you." Oh really. re: "anyone who disagree" with us... Have you read any of the Freedom of Information documents of City Staff's own emails? Have you looked at videos of Mississauga Audit Committees for that behind-the-scenes look at Mississauga in action? Video of the cheating of those sub-contractors? We're talking Primary Sources here --irrefutable proof. "leftist"? Next election I'm voting CONSERVATIVE because the Liberals... are the reason why Ontario IS the Pretend Province! There's no left or right to Truth. Truth is Science-based. Truth is SHOW ME. And if you can't SHOW, then that's BS-a-galloping. * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:38 PM Unfair to Hazel McCallion (Mantis and ConcernedResident don't read this). I'm getting uncomfortable with what's being said about Hazel McCallion. Perhaps it's because I worked up a video of her in a December 2008 Rogers "Mayor's Hour" but she was so patient and fair to the people who called in for her help. I've watched her in Audit Committee meetings. She insists on Staff keeping records, pay rigorous attention to contracts, supervise transactions, and dumps some major dumps on staff when they screwed up (routine). I've come to conclude that if Staff worked 3/4 as hard of McCallion does we'd have the city they trumpet. And video/Freedom of Information confirm that Staff lie to McCallion as much as to the Rogers cameras. Her failing is thinking that if she wants answers she "refers to Staff". Now that I blame her for. And that intellect inside that 89 year old head! I think she's the greatest politician in Canada right now! * Agree Mantis May 7, 2010 3:35 PM @Therese We have plenty of say and we are saying it. of course in the wacky world of you Barberite leftist Mississauga haters, anyone who disagrees with you has "nothing to say". How very Stalinist of you. * Agree 1 Tony Jackson May 7, 2010 3:26 PM Identity of C_Resident and/or Mantis: One/two RATS from the "Friends of Hazel" propaganda sewer. * Agree 6 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:25 PM @ ConcernedResident (it is possible that I missed your comments, yes) You wrote, "You obviously have troubles with the english language or reading something or than an FOI. I answered that question, just not what YOU wanted to hear." Sorry, I might have missed it. Can you please give me the time stamp on the comment where you did answer my question? I can't find it. And apologies again, I don't understand your reference to "Your true colours finally show!" You see I'm confused. I always show my true colours. Red and white. * Agree 2 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 3:25 PM @Therese You have not answered how we know who you are? There is no way to prove that Therese Taylor is you. Nor have you answered the question of whether YOU attend ALL pucblic/council meetings. So until you live what you ask, don't ask others. To you issue, if either of us had a dime for stupid comment a lawyer made defending a client, we'd be rich. So stop making mountains of of molehills, which is a common theme around here. * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:23 PM @ ConcernedResident You wrote, "DON'T do me any favours. If your gang wants to erase my postings, it only shows that they are no different that what you and Uatu accuse others of." I agree completely. That's my point! Controlling the Message is Controlling the Message. The people who obliterate my messages are as bad as the ones who target yours. But gosh, shucks, only too happy to rescue your messages because it'd be a shame to see your t***s flushed! I'm researching you, doll! And "Mantis". I've never met the Christian "God and Guns" Right before. You represent the epitome of Hazel McCallion supporters. So I'm enthralled. An aside. I feel sorry for Mayor McCallion. I've observed her since June 2006 and she really is as dedicated to Mississauga as it appears! You DISGRACE Madam Mayor and I hate you for that! * Agree ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 3:20 PM @ Muse You obviously have troubles with the english language or reading something or than an FOI. I answered that question, just not what YOU wanted to hear. * Agree 1 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 3:19 PM @Muse Your true colours finally show! * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:12 PM @ ConcernedResident You wrote, "I'd also be careful who you refer to as being a coward. A few that share your p.o.v. may be offended." Repeat. You are a coward! You are a BULLY! You are intellectually dishonest. And you disgrace your parents AND your God! * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:11 PM @ ConcernedResident True most people can read but you can't seem to. Trying again. You wrote, "Most people can read - but few past the headline." Yeah? Then why haven't you answered my question at May 7, 2010 2:12 PM. You asked whether Theresa attended every Council meeting. So. RESEND "If turnaround is fair play, do YOU attend every council/public meeting? Because I attend (audio/videotape) every General Committee, Audit, Budget, Council (many) public meetings AND read the agendas and minutes. ATTENTION PLEASE! ConcernedResident will now show us his/her credentials." [END] * Agree 2 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 3:11 PM ConcerendResident If you are such a community minded person what is your fear in unveiling your mask of anyonymity? Does your mentoring and guidance include the bully tatics you use here? Are you cabable of sticking to the issues at hand? Asking for the inquiry to be postponed so that McCallion's reputation isn't tarnished during an election is absurd. McCallion's wish to remain available to taxpayers but not to answer questions about conflict of interest charges is even more absurd. The citizens of Mississauga deserve to know the truth and was is the Mayor dragging her feet in passing along the required documents. * Agree 5 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 3:08 PM @ Theresa, those personal attacks from "Mantis" and "ConcernedResident" Now you know what Donald Barber had to face all these years. The vile, vile morally-reprehensible attacks by the cowardly-corrupt Many on The One. Want to share something Donald Barber wrote. Here. "“It’s time to wake up and treat the election as if it matters. We have people fighting and dying for democracy in Afghanistan and here at home we’re clueless. Something is going on and it has consequences.” What's going on is that our elections are ritualized dramas of mutual pretense --with the wily and $$$$ duping the snoozers (I know. I was one of those comatose negligent citizens who automatically cast my vote for incumbents). That said, I hope the Mayor does decide to run again. This is a free country and beside... McCallion has amply demonstrated that she has more b***s than any "male" politico in this Pretend Province. * Agree ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 3:02 PM @Muse (Cont'd) And, by the way, I was not referring to a turtle. But I suspect you know that. Most people can read - but few past the headline. Which you also know. I'd also be careful who you refer to as being a coward. A few that share your p.o.v. may be offended. * Agree 1 ComeOn May 7, 2010 3:02 PM Hazel McCallion Snubs Voters Hazel McCallion cares about Hazel. If she cared about the people she would have come completely clean and answered every question about this scandal she and her son have created. Where is the accountability? She feels so above the law that she is using City paid lawyers to fight her election battles then uses a pathetic excuse to dodge accountability. Then has baggage handlers like Pat Saito try to fudge the issues. I cannot believe a reporter took down Pat Saito's complete nonense and did not have the chops to challenge it with basic evidence that the Mayor has admittted to doing. Hey media ask Hazel for the whole story now. Why wait for the testimony next year (by the time she delays it). Why is this politician getting such a free ride? * Agree 4 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 3:01 PM @Muse DON'T do me any favours. If your gang wants to erase my postings, it only shows that they are no different that what you and Uatu accuse others of. I believe the terms fascists, and trolls get thrown around a lot. To your point about council/public meetings, I could attend more, but when you put in the volunteer hours for the betterment of the community that I do, it does not leave a lot of time for pumping up my resume, and fluffing my feathers, like some others do. I would rather spend my time working with those who need mentoring, and guidance. You know, working with the community, instead of against it. How's that for an answer? Invest the 25-30 hours a week that I do, and we can talk further. ATTENTION PLEASE. I did not throw the accusation out there that Therese Taylor (if that is her real name) is somehow more knowledgeable or better that others for attending meetings. (Which I doubt he/she does by the way) Unless it is you with a "sock puppet" account. And, by the way, I was not referring to a turtle. * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 2:56 PM The Perversion of the MYTHissaugans For the record, my May 7, 2010 12:46 PM message entitled, "For those really REALLY interested in what's going on..." that contained only "the actual court transcript is at http://mail.tscript.com/trans/mississauga/apr_30_10/index.htm and the video (only one in existence) is at http://www.vimeo.com/11444364 --all 85 minutes of it." actually registered a "Disagree". That is, there are readers who'll click "Disagree" to the actual April 30, 2010 court transcripts AND actual video! HAHAHAHAHA. (and Canadians think they're superior to Americans!) HAHAHAHAA! * Agree 2 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 2:53 PM ConcernedResident and Mantis don't really have anything to say about the issues They're just attacking me and Ursula and Donald Barber. So if we don't like McCallion we're oddballs or Barberites. That's amusing. I don't know anything about sock puppet accounts, but I do believe McCallion's reign after 31 years, should end now. If she really cared about democracy and the citizens of Mississauga instead of her power, she'd step down before this inquiry starts. Get back to the issue and the absurdity of her lawyer worrying about her image being tarnished by the inquiry and of McCallion saying she wants taxpayers to have access to her but not to her testimony into conflict of interest charges. Besides newspapers are already contemplating the day when bloggers will have to register and prove who they are before they can have they’re say. I am who I say I am. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 2:28 PM Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. One of the things I'm researching is the remarkable success of the Mayor's non-campaign machine. Not just how Rogers Cable 10 is the City's convenient funnel into our livingrooms (there's a contract by-law) but also the lack of rigorous journalism and that includes the national papers. On a much smaller level is what is happening here. There are massive deletions. I can understand why I'm targeted, or Uatu, Canadians and now Theresa. Interestingly ConcernedResident's messages are getting also nailed. I've had to repost three already! It's ConcernedResident receiving the Offensives that I don't understand. Anyone here prepared to own up to "Offensive"ing ConcernedResident? Because you too are "controlling the Message". What is irrefutable is that "voices" are deleted even at inconsequential sites. And of course, direct lies like warning people about virus/spyware to Mississauga Judicial Inquiry links! * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 2:16 PM DON'T WORRY CONCERNEDRESIDENT! I JUST RESCUED YOUR THIRD MESSAGE IN A ROW! (Boy this one's especially stupid, but--) [BEGIN] May 7, 2010 1:06 PM @Therese Taylor (if that is who you are) Why does one have to use a name? It could be fake, like yours may be. I could post as Don Barber, or Peter Smith. How do you know whether that is true. But to your point, because your guy/gal can not get elected, we should change the rules. Because the Gretzky won the MVP all those years in a row, we should change the rules so he cannot win again. That's socialism at its finest. Because your not good enough, and I am, you are going to take away my ability to succeed with another silly law. Sorry honey, we won that war when the wall fell. You can go back to that time, I wont. * Agree 3 * Disagree * Offensive 2" * Agree MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 2:12 PM @ ConcernedResident, re: your question to Theresa You wrote, " Do you attend every council/public meeting? Or is that more blather?" So. If turnaround is fair play, do YOU attend every council/public meeting? Because I attend (audio/videotape) every General Committee, Audit, Budget, Council (many) public meetings AND read the agendas and minutes. ATTENTION PLEASE! ConcernedResident will now show us his/her credentials. * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 2:09 PM @ ConcernedResident You wrote, "You have the attention span of a....." I've been researching sea turtles since 1988. I have one MASSIVE attention span. They taught me two things. Patience. and to Stay. Next, you wrote, "Sane people know this is not the New York Times. None of us are going to be immortalized for posting here." Most people can frikkin' READ! I keep telling you. I'm researching the farce that is MYTHissauga municipal elections. That includes documenting the media coverage. And that even include documenting teeny little local limited readership stuff like this and how only ONE MESSAGE is allowed. You and "Mantis" and "flight1" represent the COWARDICE that is the Old Guard. Denigrating any challenger to MYTHissauga incumbency. I submit you know exactly how fraudulent and corrupt it is. Haven't seen you discuss ONE issue. As I've said before. The U.S. Christian "Gods and Guns" Right barfing north. * Agree 1 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 2:08 PM @Mantis It is funny that the heat gets turned up, and all of a sudden the interest here skyrockets, and the Blaberites are more frequent posters. * Agree 1 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 2:06 PM @Therese Taylor (again, if that is who you are) Before you start a rant like the rest of your "friends", you need to answer questions, like the one Mantis asked you. The word "sheep" was used initially by Muse/Mississaugawatch (or whatever handle she is using today). Do you attend every council/public meeting? Or is that more blather? * Agree 1 Mantis May 7, 2010 1:55 PM Increase In Users Anyone else notice the sudden increase in the number of posters here? Clearly the Barberite bunch are up in arms that their free reign to run amok polluting these forums and spamming every story with their bizare rants has come to an end. I just wonder if they managed to find a few additional odd balls or they just created a bunch of "sock puppet" accounts. * Agree 1 Mantis May 7, 2010 1:53 PM @Therese Taylor As ConcernedResident pointed out....you could be Donald Baber (a sock puppet account) for all we know. This is the Internet and in case you hadn't noticed - virtually NOBODY uses their real name on sites like this. It really begs the question as to why ConcernedResident, myself and presumably anyone else who disagrees with you should be forced to use our real names while the Barberites can retain their "pen names". * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:45 PM ComeOn, all you ever need to know about Pat Saito... All you need to know about Pat Saito is this 38 minute video showing sub-contractors (cheated out of tens of thousands of dollars) ask her "what due diligence" the City had done in hiring the contractor. Then there's video of an Audit Committee where Saito herself was Chair where it was revealed the absolute lack of due diligence (McCallion called it the worst report she'd ever read) in hiring contractors. Audit couldn't even find an evaluation process! Yet before Rogers cameras, Saito smiles at that subcontractor and says "Staff have assured me..." And that's ALL you ever need to watch to "get" Pat Saito. http://www.vimeo.com/11093246 (and to point out, I am not in this video at all. Purely, Council and Audit Committee proceedings.) * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:33 PM @ ConcernedResident I didn't read your message all the way through because I know what a moronic waste of time you c**** out. But when rescuing it, I noticed, you writing "if that is the case, renounce your candidacy, and ask to have your name withdrawn before the "sheep" get led down the garden path." The "sheep" (that should read "stupid sheep") will not get led down the garden path because when I do make my campaign speeches the first thing I'll tell them is that I ask they vote for me ONLY if they want to send a message to the politicians in the Pretend Province of Ontario that they're sick of the arrogance, lack of accountability and white-collar crime that is our three levels of government. * Agree 2 ComeOn May 7, 2010 1:33 PM Hazel Uses City Paid Lawyer to Float Election Idea Hazel does something wrong on top of being before an Inquiry into a shady land deal now Pat Saito says that forcing the Mayor to meet with her sons partners was somehow beyond her control and part of a plot to get her? How is it that Saito can give such bizarre statements to the media and not one person recommends a pysch assessment? * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 1:30 PM To Concerned Resident Like Mantis, you should identify yourself before you start calling people like me Sheep. The sheep are the citizens who never go to public meetings or coucil meetings. The sheep are the ones who vote for McCallion time and again. The sheep are the ones who don't know that less than a quarter of eligible voters acutally vote (in one election this past decade it was less than 20%). It's the sheep who don't know what's going on and then there's others like who believe in democracy, truth and standing up for what they say, and putting their name on it. * Agree 3 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 1:29 PM @Muse You have the attention span of a.....I've told you before that it is only you and Uatu who get strung out over deleted messages. Sane people know this is not the New York Times. None of us are going to be immortalized for posting here. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:29 PM DON'T WORRY CONCERNEDRESIDENT! I JUST RESCUED ANOTHER OF YOUR MESSAGES! Your May 7, 2010 12:59 PM is also teetering at 2 Offensives! MISSISSAUGWATCH to the rescue! [BEGIN] "ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 12:59 PM @Muse If you truly only registered for "research purposes", which I highly doubt given your comments scattered throughout this section, you are no better a person that any of the others you accuse of wrongdoings. For starters, you are asking the "Sheep" (your word not mine) like Theresa Taylor, to vote for someone who has no intention of taking office (according to you). This, in my book, is a total misrepresentation on your behalf, and making a mockery of the election process. Don't give me this song and dance about how you'll never get elected, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, renounce your candidacy, and ask to have your name withdrawn before the "sheep" get led down the garden path.* Agree * Disagree * Offensive 2" * Agree MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:23 PM @ ConcernedResident re: "Your sermons are really getting tiresome." Uh. Psst. Most people are smart enough not to READ! Love, the Mississauga Muse, MISSISSAUGAWATCH, and MISSISSAUGAWATCH.CA * Agree MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:21 PM DON'T WORRY CONCERNEDRESIDENT! I'LL SAVE YOUR MESSAGE! Whoa! It's 1:20 PM and your May 7, 2010 1:07 PM is already at 2 "Offensives"! But don't worry! I'll repost for you! [BEGIN] ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 1:07 PM @Muse I forgot, your a covert secret agent who is going to save the City from the big bad people. Please, give us a break. Your sermons are really getting tiresome." people. Please, give us a break. Your sermons are really getting tiresome. * Agree| * Disagree * Offensive 2 * Agree MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:16 PM Cut off Will listen to his speech and will almost certainly vote for him. Look around! WHEN HAVE MISSISSAUGA ELECTIONS NOT BEEN A GHASTLY FARCE?! * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:15 PM @ ConcernedResident You wrote, "For starters, you are asking the "Sheep" (your word not mine) like Theresa Taylor, to vote for someone who has no intention of taking office (according to you)." NO! I don't want ANYONE to vote for me! In a video I YouTubed the day I filed, I said I'd just struck a match to 200 bucks. In my speeches I will make it CLEAR to all, I don't WANT their votes! You wrote, " This, in my book, is a total misrepresentation on your behalf, and making a mockery of the election process." Clearly you haven't read my Blog OR watched the video, I've been saying the ELECTION PROCESS **IS** A MOCKERY, (actually an abomination) and I'm just right there on the inside proving it. Dude, dude! I'm even going to be videotaping myself at debates! Meaning I'll be both "reporter/videographer" WHILE I'm giving my speeches! (Bet ya didn't know I was ambidextrous, huh? :-)) Without me filing McCallion would get acclaimed again. No way! Happy that other guy filed as well. Will listen to his speech and will almost certainly vot * Agree 3 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 1:07 PM @Muse I forgot, your a covert secret agent who is going to save the City from the big bad people. Please, give us a break. Your sermons are really getting tiresome. * Agree 3 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 1:06 PM @Therese Taylor (if that is who you are) Why does one have to use a name? It could be fake, like yours may be. I could post as Don Barber, or Peter Smith. How do you know whether that is true. But to your point, because your guy/gal can not get elected, we should change the rules. Because the Gretzky won the MVP all those years in a row, we should change the rules so he cannot win again. That's socialism at its finest. Because your not good enough, and I am, you are going to take away my ability to succeed with another silly law. Sorry honey, we won that war when the wall fell. You can go back to that time, I wont. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:05 PM @ ConcernedResident ARRRRR EEEEEE AYYYYY DEEEEEEE You wrote, "If you truly only registered for "research purposes", which I highly doubt given your comments scattered throughout this section". Well duuuuuuuuh, ya think maybe my comments at 12:53 PM, "I should add for writing purposes. After all, as everyone knows Mississauga municipal elections are total jokes (or to draw the signature gush from Pat Saito) an "absolutely phenomenal" joke. A farce par excellence. I'm documenting it from the inside. As a candidate. Also documenting how media pretend to cover Mississauga elections. Also showing what happens when a seedless grape decides to make a stand against a Mac truck!" MIGHT BE A CLUE?! * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 1:03 PM @ Theresa (dead on!) I see your Spidey senses got tingly about "Mantis". You wrote, "Mantis How can anyone take your comments seriously When you won't even say truthfully who you are. You could be the Mayor's son, a city employee, a developer.... anyone who benefits from the status quo." Zero ZERO doubt! Both "Mantis" and "ConcernedResident" pounce on any facts (audio, video, Freedom of Information and scholarly references) and then generate insults like "delusional" "tin foil hat" "Get a life" "Get a job" "haven't you got better things to do with your time?" and my personal favourite, "paronoid". Finally had it and produced this video yesterday --3 phone-in callers to the Mayor's Hour http://tinyurl.com/2e2db42 Yep "Mantis" could also be "ConcernedResident". * Agree 3 ConcernedResident May 7, 2010 12:59 PM @Muse If you truly only registered for "research purposes", which I highly doubt given your comments scattered throughout this section, you are no better a person that any of the others you accuse of wrongdoings. For starters, you are asking the "Sheep" (your word not mine) like Theresa Taylor, to vote for someone who has no intention of taking office (according to you). This, in my book, is a total misrepresentation on your behalf, and making a mockery of the election process. Don't give me this song and dance about how you'll never get elected, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, renounce your candidacy, and ask to have your name withdrawn before the "sheep" get led down the garden path. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:57 PM In fairness to the Mayor I covered the 2006 election to some degree (video/photos). Mayor McCallion attends the All Candidates ratepayers' thingies. In 2006 it was Wards 2, 3 and 7. Don't think there were any others. She was "up" against Donald Barber and Roy Willis. Only a total moron would believe that the Mayor showed up for herself. No. It was to support the Incumbent councillors. Still, in 2006, putting in a full day as Mayor and then those night sessions?... don't know where they packs the energy. * Agree 1 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 12:57 PM Mantis How can anyone take your comments seriously When you won't even say truthfully who you are. You could be the Mayor's son, a city employee, a developer.... anyone who benefits from the status quo.There's hasn't been a democracy in Mississauga for many years. 31 is too long and should be against the law. Two to three terms maximum should be the rule of law. * Agree 3 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:53 PM I see that I need to clarify My comment My May 7, 2010 12:15 PM comment title, "The article failed to mention..." I see has attracted a "Disagree" when I wrote, that ""Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett and first-time candidate Martin Marinka, 32, are the only registered candidates." should read ""Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett, who filed purely for research purposes ...". I should add for writing purposes. After all, as everyone knows Mississauga municipal elections are total jokes (or to draw the signature gush from Pat Saito) an "absolutely phenomenal" joke. A farce par excellence. I'm documenting it from the inside. As a candidate. Also documenting how media pretend to cover Mississauga elections. Also showing what happens when a seedless grape decides to make a stand against a Mac truck! * Agree * | * Disagree 1 * | * Offensive * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:48 PM Theresa is dead on She wrote, " Currently, with no viable candidates, there’s no debate and no democracy." Just like old 1960's joke. When Kruschev commented on Soviet style elections. Something like, yes, we have a democracy! People are free to vote for any Communist they want! In MYTHissauga, people are free to vote for Hazel McCallion or --? Uh, when was the last time she even faced a viable candidate? * Agree 4 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:46 PM For those really REALLY interested in what's going on... the actual court transcript is at http://mail.tscript.com/trans/mississauga/apr_30_10/index.htm and the video (only one in existence) is at http://www.vimeo.com/11444364 --all 85 minutes of it. * Agree 1 Mantis May 7, 2010 12:45 PM @Therese Taylor No, she should not resign. She should remain in office as long as the majority of Mississauga voters want her to. I guarantee that she will win 90% of the votes once again this time around. We have plenty of democracy in Mississauga.....if someone thinks they are a better candidate they should run and if the voters agree, they will win. Having said that, I haven't seen a candidate who is more suitable for the job that McCallion is. Certainly not perpetual loser Donald Barber who thinks that winning 5 out of 100 votes is a victory! * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:42 PM @ Mississauga Moose old Mississauga News Blogs. You wrote, " Whatever happenned to...... "Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007." Unfortunately that original March 2007 Blog experienced three format changes at the Mississauga News. It (almost) survived the second change but the last dealt it a death blow. Fortunately I rescued the entire thing and just haven't made it a priority to repost it as mississaugawatch.ca. You can still access Mr. Stewart's "Random Access" through Google. Here: http://blogs.mississauga.com/blogs/John-Stewart Only problem is it's attracted dozens of Viagra "comments" My stuff from back then is all over the map. You see in March 2007, I'd only had two months of Freedom of Information behind me and was a complete green rube. The truly sad loss is John Stewart's "Random Access" (my personal favourite) from 2005 onward. Now THAT's a loss! * Agree 1 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:53 PM I see that I need to clarify My comment My May 7, 2010 12:15 PM comment title, "The article failed to mention..." I see has attracted a "Disagree" when I wrote, that ""Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett and first-time candidate Martin Marinka, 32, are the only registered candidates." should read ""Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett, who filed purely for research purposes ...". I should add for writing purposes. After all, as everyone knows Mississauga municipal elections are total jokes (or to draw the signature gush from Pat Saito) an "absolutely phenomenal" joke. A farce par excellence. I'm documenting it from the inside. As a candidate. Also documenting how media pretend to cover Mississauga elections. Also showing what happens when a seedless grape decides to make a stand against a Mac truck! * Agree * | * Disagree 1 * | * Offensive * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:48 PM Theresa is dead on She wrote, " Currently, with no viable candidates, there’s no debate and no democracy." Just like old 1960's joke. When Kruschev commented on Soviet style elections. Something like, yes, we have a democracy! People are free to vote for any Communist they want! In MYTHissauga, people are free to vote for Hazel McCallion or --? Uh, when was the last time she even faced a viable candidate? * Agree 4 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:46 PM For those really REALLY interested in what's going on... the actual court transcript is at http://mail.tscript.com/trans/mississauga/apr_30_10/index.htm and the video (only one in existence) is at http://www.vimeo.com/11444364 --all 85 minutes of it. * Agree 1 Mantis May 7, 2010 12:45 PM @Therese Taylor No, she should not resign. She should remain in office as long as the majority of Mississauga voters want her to. I guarantee that she will win 90% of the votes once again this time around. We have plenty of democracy in Mississauga.....if someone thinks they are a better candidate they should run and if the voters agree, they will win. Having said that, I haven't seen a candidate who is more suitable for the job that McCallion is. Certainly not perpetual loser Donald Barber who thinks that winning 5 out of 100 votes is a victory! * Agree 2 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:42 PM @ Mississauga Moose old Mississauga News Blogs. You wrote, " Whatever happenned to...... "Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007." Unfortunately that original March 2007 Blog experienced three format changes at the Mississauga News. It (almost) survived the second change but the last dealt it a death blow. Fortunately I rescued the entire thing and just haven't made it a priority to repost it as mississaugawatch.ca. You can still access Mr. Stewart's "Random Access" through Google. Here: http://blogs.mississauga.com/blogs/John-Stewart Only problem is it's attracted dozens of Viagra "comments" My stuff from back then is all over the map. You see in March 2007, I'd only had two months of Freedom of Information behind me and was a complete green rube. The truly sad loss is John Stewart's "Random Access" (my personal favourite) from 2005 onward. Now THAT's a loss! * Agree 1 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 12:31 PM Mayor McCallion should resign and let Misissauga get on with the future Unfortunately as long as taxes stay relatively static, most Mississauga citizens sleep. With all due respect to the two registered candidates (I’ll vote for one of them) Mississauga needs a real race. If Mayor McCallion really had the best interests of Mississauga at heart, I believe she would step down now and let Mississauga get on with its future. Currently, with no viable candidates, there’s no debate and no democracy. * Agree 4 Therese Taylor May 7, 2010 12:29 PM Talk About Audacity and a Sense of Entitlement It’s amazing that McCallion’s lawyer can request that the inquiry be postponed until for fear it “may harm her re-election campaign.” That McCallion disputes her lawyers claims yet “remains opposed to testifying during that period because she wants to be ‘available to the taxpayers’ is equally absurd. What could be more important to democracy than the mayor being available to answer vital questions about whether she violated conflict of interest rules. Especially during an election. Moreover why did she sign an agreement that gave a subsidiary of OMERS, a 10% stake in Enersource, along with veto power? If McCallion is clean and has nothing to hide there should be no dust up. This dispute between her and her lawyer seems to me to be a bit of smoke and mirrors. Is it really possible the taxpayers are footing the bill, $100,00 for a lawyer who apparently doesn’t represent McCallion? * Agree 5 ComeOn May 7, 2010 12:22 PM Hazel McCallion -- shameful behaviour Really, so your lawyer acted without your sayso and to your benefit and you are shocked -- how convenient for you. This way you get to object and benefit. The McCallion family want hundreds of thousands of dollars of city money to defend themselves yet the tribunal cannot prosecute them only produce a report. Now they get to use this money for election purposes. WOW. Remember they got us all into this thing throught their land deal. Oh and the National Post says Hazel alledgedly attended meetings with her son -- actually Hazel McCallion has admitted to attending those meetings but has NEVER come clean on what has gone with this entire scandal. If Pat Saito is convinced she is innocent then tell all of us how this land deal stuff got going and answer EVERY question. * Agree 6 MISSISSAUGAWATCH May 7, 2010 12:15 PM The article failed to mention... "Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett and first-time candidate Martin Marinka, 32, are the only registered candidates." should read ""Citizen blogger Ursula Keuper-Bennett, who filed purely for research purposes ..." * Agree 3 Tony Jackson May 7, 2010 12:09 PM My client pleads "Not Guilty" Your Honour! Is it the next statement which McCallion would disagree with Ms. McIntyre? * Agree 5 Stephen Wahl May 7, 2010 11:08 AM Which way the wind blows? Looks like someone is flying more trial balloons than the weatherman. Why not just lick your finger and stick it . . . in the air. * Agree 3 The Mississauga Moose May 7, 2010 9:38 AM Whatever happenned to....... "Mississauga Musings Blog at the Mississauga News since March 2007." * Agree 1 Home Page - Main Table of Contents - Back up a page - Back to Top [COMMENTS BY DON B. - ] |
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