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Mississauga News - Oct. 4, 2010 - By John Stewart - jstewart@mississauga.net

Mayoral debate set at UTM

Debate on….
Mayoral candidates (from left): Donald Barber, Bryan Hallett and George Winter
stood on the steps of the Living Arts Centre in shadow of the Civic Centre and challenged Mayor Hazel McCallion
to a televised debate in Sept. They'll have their chance tomorrow night at a debate organized by MIRANET at University of Toronto Mississauga.
File photo by Fred Loek

An all-candidates' meeting for Mississauga's mayoralty candidates being taped tomorrow night for Rogers' Television will be the "best chance for true debate" in the campaign, says one of the organizers.

The format for the two-hour event has been structured to allow participating candidates to have "mini-debates" with each other and to allow a "rapid round" of questions from audience members, who'll include political science students from University of Toronto Mississauga, where the debate will be held.

"Let's get some creative thinking going and some passion," Dorothy Tomiuk, secretary of the Mississauga Residents' Associations Network (MIRANET), which organized the debate along with Rogers, said this morning.

Even before candidates give their opening statements, they'll be stimulated with an opening question — which they've already been given — asking for reaction to a recent statement in the media that Mississauga suffers from "lack of public discussion and opposition, the infrequent exchange of ideas and the overwhelming sense of complacency."

Candidates will be asked to give their reaction to the statements by Toronto Star columnist Christopher Hume at the beginning of the show, which is to be taped for broadcast next Monday, at 5 and 11 p.m., and Oct. 23, at 3 p.m.

Tomiuk said that asking candidates for their reaction to Hume's opinion, which she considers a put-down of Mississaugans, should help spark a lively discussion.

"We believe this will be an ice-breaker for the candidates, engage the viewers' attention and position the stakes we all have in being part of this debate," MIRANET said in a memorandum to candidates, who do not normally get to see questions ahead of time.

Mayoralty candidate George Winter says the debate is exactly the kind of interactive discussion he and fellow candidates Donald Barber and Bryan Hallett were seeking when they challenged incumbent Hazel McCallion to a full debate at a press conference on Sept. 23.

"My fear was that the whole thing (the election campaign) would be a non-event and just another coronation," Winter said.

The timing of the announcement was a coincidence, says Tomiuk, since MIRANET has been working with Rogers since last July to provide a full mayoral debate.

Representatives of 10 local ratepayer groups will be among the questioners in the debate, which will ask candidates for their stances on a wide variety of issues.

Ten of the 17 candidates responded to the invitation to debate by the Sept. 27 deadline.  Those who do not participate will be offered a five-minute separate candidate profile at the station.

Those originally participating were: Donald Barber, Dave Cook, Paul Fromm, Ursula Keuper-Bennett, Chakkunny Antu Maprani, Hazel McCallion, Peter Orphanos, Andrew Seitz, Ram Selvarajah and Winter.

However, Barber, a citizen journalist who runs his own political website, has objected to one of the ground rules of the debate, which prohibits candidates from recording it.

Tomiuk says the policy is designed to minimize distractions for the candidates and the audience.  "You can't be a candidate and be fiddling with a camera," she said.

Barber has filed an objection with the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission over his concerns and does not plan to participate.

He's refusing to sign an agreement that contains a set of rules candidates must agree to before participating.
"The rules are too dictatorial and fascist," Barber said this afternoon.  "It limits what the candidates can say," and gives Rogers the right to edit content before re-broadcast, he complained.

Tomiuk said the rules are intended to ensure "civil" interchange among the candidates.

Hallett, meanwhile, claims he met the deadline for participation, but has been excluded due to a misunderstanding about the content of an e-mail he sent to MIRANET.

He intended to indicate he wanted to be part of the debate, Hallett said.


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Peter Browne

mississaugaresident

Oct 6, 2010 10:41 PM

Broadcast when?

On Monday? Thanksgiving? I noticed that utmtv.ca has the opening statements online, do they have the rest coming?

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 5, 2010 2:17 PM

The Thorn in the live debate issue --Friends of Hazel, Fiends of Hazel and Hazel's Hos

I'm struggling with this --but here's the thinking. Agree 100%. A debate should be live and full entry to the public allowed. But here's the problem. None of the challengers have $$$Harold Shipp$$$ as a backer --meaning, the Fiends of Hazel and Hazel's Hos can marshall Friends of Hazel to pack a room. Now close your eyes and imagine. Or would someone prefer I work up Betty Merkley's December 2, 2009 string-of-t**ds for a taste?...

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 5, 2010 2:12 PM

@ Mantis UTM doesn't use quasi-fascist unaccountable lying knobs like MYTHissauga does.

Regarding Donald Barber you wrote, "it would be hilarious if they had to chase him around the studio like they had to chase him in council chambers, it would be pure comedy gold." Won't happen. McCallion's security guards, like their security bosses are quasi-fascist unaccountable lying knobs who were exempted from the province's Bill 159 Security Act when City Staff sneaked a half dozen by-laws onto the floor after Council had passed 30 others. Council then rubber-stamped exemption of these security guards from the provincial public complaints system so they could enjoy the fraud that allows them to "confess" to the Security director and stop any investigation from Human Resources. That corruption wouldn't happen at UTM because they use Special Constables instead of the unethical swill that Hazel McCallion encourages. Thank you once again for allowing me to show how the by-law was sneaked past the public at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RI_bjZMeVo

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Uatu

Oct 5, 2010 1:27 PM

@Muse

No, I didn't forget that he could have been deleted with offensives. I suggested exactly that the first time he lied about responding. The thing is, I know where I posted the questions and I watched carefully for a response. I suppose he could have posted it in the middle of the night and then got three clicks before dawn, but Occam's razor tells me he simply lied. His false bravado with the "hahaha you can't find it" just makes him look more and more like a little kid caught lying. I mean, isn't that how a badly behaved six-year old reacts when caught in a lie? (I might be overestimating ConcernedLiar's maturity a bit there...)

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Mantis

Oct 5, 2010 12:23 PM

Play By The Rules Or Don't Play At All

If fringe candidate Donald Barber won't play by the rules (He can't even obey a judges order not to video tape a court room) and refuses to sign the agreement then don't let him participate. It's not as if he has more than a handful of supporters anyway. Although it would be hilarious if they had to chase him around the studio like they had to chase him in council chambers, it would be pure comedy gold.

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chemgen

Oct 5, 2010 12:08 PM

Mayoral Debate LIVE!!!!

The debate should be held LIVE! Doing so will show the citizens of Mississauga who among the candidates has the quickness of mind and breadth of knowledge to give relevant answers to important impromptu questions of callers and audience.

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Therese Taylor

Oct 5, 2010 10:53 AM

@Muse, Don't worry about tonight

For whatever reason, it's done. My bet is Rogers would have editted anything constructive anyway. Debates should not be taped. They should be live and they should be open to the public!

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 5, 2010 10:42 AM

@ Uatu, sorry but I disagree

You wrote, "Don't bother, the comment is a fiction and he's too much of a coward and liar to admit it. He likes to pretend to himself that he's got me searching all over for it but of course I KNOW where I posted the question, and it took less than 30 seconds to prove he was lying." Of course he lies but you forgot something. All it would take is for three "Offensives" to take ConcernedResident's comment OUT! Right? However, there's an exchange where I suggest to CR to back up his comments and he assured me he does. That he's not easily cut-and-pasting it again, yes, suggests he's lying. Just want to point out that it isn't a 100% given is all.

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Think About It

Oct 5, 2010 10:32 AM

HAZELHOS should learn to play nice before their annonymities are disclosed. Perhaps they wouldn't shoot their foot as often

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Uatu

Oct 5, 2010 10:32 AM

@Muse

Don't bother, the comment is a fiction and he's too much of a coward and liar to admit it. He likes to pretend to himself that he's got me searching all over for it but of course I KNOW where I posted the question, and it took less than 30 seconds to prove he was lying. Notice how he has also fabricated a wonderful little "MO" for me that anyone who would bother to spend 5 minutes looking here (don't know why anyone would) will quickly see is like most of ConcernedCoward's comments: a complete lie. This is what a strawman is, and why I mention them so often. ConcernedLiar seems to have trouble with the concept, just like missy2. Interesting.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 5, 2010 10:30 AM

@ coalition, Uatu, ThinkAboutIt, Therese et al. For the record

I failed to qualify for tonight's ROGERS debate because I stupidly didn't read the MIRANET rules carefully enough. And I had trouble getting to sleep because I knew the degree to which I failed. I was going to go AT her. Shove her own words right back at here in front of the cameras and draw her honesty/credibility into question. Was prepared to be kicked out of the debate too. And the irony (smiling as I type this) is I failed to follow Policy! Now here's the difference between me and Hazel McCallion and her employees. I ADMIT TO THAT FAILURE! Whereas they lie that they "follow policy very, very very diligently".

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 5, 2010 10:24 AM

@ ConcernedResident. I'm still requesting your comment.

I didn't see it either.

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ConcernedResident

Oct 5, 2010 10:04 AM

Barber, Again!

Why is it this guy is the only one who cannot play nice under the same rules every one else does. "The rules are too dictatorial and fascist," Barber said this afternoon. "It limits what the candidates can say," and gives Rogers the right to edit content before re-broadcast, he complained" Give me a break.

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ConcernedResident

Oct 5, 2010 10:01 AM

@Uatu

Found that comment yet? Love your M.O. It is so hilarious, cause it;s the same every time. First, when you don't like what's been said, start with the "strawman" routine. Then, when that doesn't work, lay on the insults. This is followed by accusing the poster of being someone else. Finally, when all else fails, you call them a coward and a liar. You are really a simple, small man. Toddle off now.

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Uatu

Oct 5, 2010 9:42 AM

@Private

So you're either ConcernedCoward under a different name or another liar who simply makes things up about people so you can attack them. Watch out, that's missy2's specialty. Our missy2 is one scary piece of work, let me tell you. No siree, you don't missy2 on your case. You'll die of laughter.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:03 PM

@ Missy2

Please don't feel sorry for me. If you knew just how wide my grin is right now you'd be CHILLED.

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Missy2

Oct 4, 2010 11:00 PM

Poor pathetic woman

I have to laugh. I've just been watching for a few days and it is quite entertaining seeing the Muse self-destruct. Every post gets more incoherent. She truly is a sad pathetic spectacle. And watching Uatu trying to come to her rescue just adds to the laughs. It's an idiot orgy! Private/Mantis/CR, just sit back and enjoy the train wreck that is the Mississauga Mule....

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 10:49 PM

Speeches this evening at Orchard Heights.

I felt badly for Jim Tovey. He didn't get remotely to what he wanted to say. And I was just getting really into it and his time was up. He expressed surprise that it was four minutes. So was I! The one who's waaaaay out there is this young guy who wants the City of Mississauga to sell insurance to residents. If he knew how the City screws people over, he'd never entrust them with insurance. I mean the City would accept our money. Just find infinite ways to insist our cars aren't really dinged --or that the senior run over by the latest bus isn't really run over.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 10:45 PM

Oopsie, forgot @ Private

You're a City of MYTHissauga employee, right? Or in some way shill for the evil empire, right? I mean how you avoid answering questions. Still waiting for what your whimsical mind interprets "@#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^" to be.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 10:43 PM

@ Private --you are just soooooo #@$#$@$%$#@^34#@$#$#43343:-)

I failed to notice that MIRANET required a three line cut-and-paste that wasn't cut-and-pasteable. I failed to give them the part that went ""I accept unconditionally the Debate Policies Rules and Conditions..." Have to laugh that McCallion got in. I mean considering she doesn't read ANYTHING! Must'a b'in the real Mayor fillin' out the forms. I'm GRINNING at how relieved I am!

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 10:27 PM

@ Muse

Really, you expect anyone to believe your BS? Admit it. You were removed from the guest list due to the filthy language you post here.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 10:24 PM

@ Private

You whined, " MUrsula Keuper-Bennett says "GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself". Again." I did indeed! Just a reminder of your original message October 4, 1:46 PM. You accused me of having a "filthy mind". You wrote, "This 'candidate' and her filthy mouth (hope the rest of her is not as filthy) has no place at this debate." And I suggested that it was YOU with the filthy mind and challenged you to tell me what "%$@#%$%@$#" meant. Oh! And as for your brilliancy, "hope the rest of her is not as filthy"... no, but if you give me a week, I *can* be. And then I'd happy invite you to @!#%$$@#$%@%$ my @#$@%$#^%^%$&&. What babe? You got a problem with @!#%$$@#$%@%$ my @#$@%$#^%^%$&& and not with Mantis writing "f**ked in the head"?

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 10:16 PM

Hey guys get this!

I just received an email that I'm not one of the people allowed at the Rogers taping. Imagine my puzzlement. Turns out their pdf file isn't cut-and-pasteable. Sent them the Rogers agreement. The 100-word bio. Can't find a trace of the three lines I'd cut-and-pasted into my message. Of course they weren't cut-and-pasteable. And this evening I arrived at the Orchard Heights debate without my speech and I had to bug out. My subconscious doesn't want me up there. And of course I never expected MIRANET to send a courtesy message saying I'd forgotten to attach the "I accept unconditionally..." along with the Rogers contract and 100-word bio I did send. I'm a tad miffed. Today I spent 13-bucks on a full roll of duct tape just for tomorrow!

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 10:13 PM

MUrsula Keuper-Bennett says "GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself". Again.

UK-B aka 'The Mississauga Muse' wrote; "Oct 4, 2010 11:31 AM @ Mantis, I can't say this often enough GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself. And anyone remotely related to you through DNA. " I have to ask; Why do the Mississauga News advertisers tolerate this??

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 10:10 PM

Ursula Keuper-Bennett wrote

..."GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF". UKB aka 'The Mississauga Muse' wrote (on 09.30.10 5:32 pm) ...."@ Missy2 Oh! And I forgot to add on the part of my < 2% constituents GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF " This 'candidate' and her filthy mouth (hope the rest of her is not as filthy) has no place at this debate. She is an embarrassment to the legitamit candidates/process. Speaking of process, Ursula Keuper-Bennet is already comprimising the rules ("I just read their rules. "Turn cell phone ringers OFF" Nothing about not using cellphones to TWITTER"). Seems this person thinks rules are for everybody else. Here's another FYI on UKB; "Approval of Minutes of Planning Meeting of September 28, 2009 Katie (Mahoney) would like the minutes to reflect that Ursula Keuper-Bennett videotaped a portion of the meeting even after her request to videotape had been denied by the committee" I think the organizing committee should rethink

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 10:08 PM

Ursula Keuper-Bennett wrote.."GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF

continued.... I think the organizing committee and other participating candidates should revisit this invitation to UKB. She will be an embarrassment to the debate by her presence, her need to bend/break the rules, and above all, her FILTHY MOUTH.

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Uatu

Oct 4, 2010 10:04 PM

Fear the Mantis, slayer of strawmen

"...it could be the certain realization that nothing will stand between Mayor McCallion and another term in office." See how stupid Mantis has to pretend to be to get his strawman set up? Muse has told him dozens of times that she thinks McCallion will win, but Mantis has to pretend to be an ignorant dunce because otherwise, what would he have to attack? Oh wait, there's another explanation... Mantis IS an ignorant dunce.

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 9:23 PM

@think About it

I guess about as much as the unitelligent drivel you post, that normally has nothing to do with the topic, idiot.

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Think About It

Oct 4, 2010 8:59 PM

Who cares?

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 8:57 PM

Interesting....

Our boy Barber, part of the group that rails against the Mayor for being too cosy with developers had only two contributors to his 1996 Mayoral campaign. Who were they? AJ Mantella and Sons, and sister conpany, FIMA Development. What's more, this developer was involved in litigation against the Mayor and others in 2002.

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 7:49 PM

"Real Democracy"?????

Theresa - if you call demanding someone "resign", or "not run again", because they've had the popularity with the voters, not to mention the best platform, "democracy", I'll take whatever you call this now. The superiorty complex that you and your ilk suffer from is revolting, to say the least.

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 7:43 PM

My My My

What's up "Mississauga Muse" you're getting nastier than usua these days. My guess it's either stress from supposedly running for mayor, or it could be the certain realization that nothing will stand between Mayor McCallion and another term in office. Perhaps It's the growing realization that the whole inquiry will have been a total waste of money that will end up issuing a report that mirrors the city's own lawyer's report on the issue. Whatever it is, it's time to chill out.

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Therese Taylor

Oct 4, 2010 7:33 PM

@Muse, Uatu et al (other friends of real democracy)

Let's get back to the issues, fact-based research and stop feeding the trolls as one of you so wisely advised me months ago.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:41 PM

@ Uatu, please consider this.

You wrote, "Poor Mantis! Watch him now as he blusters furiously to hide his fear!" It's not fear. Reminder. Altemeyer.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:30 PM

@ Uatu --tooooo funny!

ConcernedResident wrote, "Oh, and the insults designed to get me re-post - ain't working" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahaha. "What a maroon!" (Bugs Bunny)

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:29 PM

@ ConcernedResident, re: "None of you can put a lucid thought together if your tried."

Um. Try your lucid thought again?...

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:25 PM

@ ConcernedResident

You wrote, "Honestly now. What is the extent of your education? If you state anything past high school, and investigation needs to be launched. You are neediest & most immature person around here." Grade 12 education, ConcernedResident --just like Peter McCallion. And that qualifies me to be a "visionary" for a 5-Star hotel in downtown Mississauga! And have City Staff "burn the midnight oil" over the weekends to do my bidding! Last you wrote, "Honestly now. What is the extent of your education? If you state anything past high school, and investigation needs to be launched. You are neediest & most immature person around here. Do honestly think I give a shyt about all the crap you spew out?" Oh ABSOLUTELY! I know you're *fascinated* by me. Witness all the turds you fling around commenting on the fun I'm havin'!

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Therese Taylor

Oct 4, 2010 5:17 PM

Not sure what you mean by "A sad surprise"

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 5:14 PM

@Muse

Honestly now. What is the extent of your education? If you state anything past high school, and investigation needs to be launched. You are neediest & most immature person around here. Do honestly think I give a shyt about all the crap you spew out? "I'm the only one who's done this", & "I'm the only one who's done that". Who cares? Are you looking for a pat on the back or maybe on the top of your baseball hat head, and with a "good girl Muse". In the end, what is ALL of this going to get you? Let me answer - A BIG FAT F'IN Z-E-R-O. You and you sock monkey friends post all over this board, spewing the same tired old mantra's day after day. Nothing of what you say changes from one day to the next. And along come more and more incoherent posters to back you up. None of you can put a lucid thought together if your tried.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:08 PM

@ Uatu, no kidding eh?

Regarding ConcernedResident you wrote, "Forget where you posted something, did you? Just admit you lied and I'll leave you alone too... or post your "explanation" so we can see how bogus it is." A reminder I didn't see the explanation he claimed to have written and asked him to simply retrieve it as I know he keeps a back-up of his comments. No soap radio.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 5:06 PM

@ ConcernedResident

You wrote, "One look at all the postings here shows you have all the maturity of a 5 yr old. Is it any wonder you needed to beg here for someone to hold your camera." For the record, I had several people/family in mind. One problem. They would make me more nervous than I am right now. I have an ANXIETY DISORDER that requires me to take medication even for a brief appearance before Council. Even with medication my heart pounded all the way through the Churchill Meadows evening. I'm terrified about tomorrow and I know one pill won't cut it. FEEL EVEN MORE SUPERIOR NOW @$$@e#^#%#%^#%&?! And I now understand how despicable it was for Nando Iannicca to say, "Don't like what we're doing? Then run for office." He knows all "Run for office" is is a way for the City to collect $100 or $200. Just all fascinating --the Canada that isn't.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:59 PM

@ ConcernedResident

You wrote, "One look at all the postings here shows you have all the maturity of a 5 yr old." Actually mine are the postings of someone who's had the City of Mississauga's FRAUD, HYPOCRISY and MALFEASANCE verified right up to overflow. Meaning few people see like I do. I'm the only one who's filed all this Freedom of Information. The only one who's videotaped virtually every Council meeting since October 2006. Attended the Peel Youth 'Violence Prevention bogosity. Videotaped all Audit Committees. Read Tom Urbaniak's book. Sat through all the Mississauga Judicial Inquiry. You see, evidence is SCIENCE. And Science isn't about Voting. With Science, the One can be right against the Many. And be blissfully confident what evil fraud you %$^%%$%$#@# out every single day while you're feeling up the slumbering silent majority.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:55 PM

@ Mantis

You wrote, "Your posts are starting to get as disorganized and disjointed as "Think About It" and "Come On". That's pretty bad. I guess the stress of "running for office" (LOL) is getting to you." That's because your neuron freezes when it hits anything to do with morality and social issues. I blame both your parents. And the Canadian military who crapped you out after they were done with you.

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Uatu

Oct 4, 2010 4:49 PM

ConcernedResident, coward and liar, posts here

Forget where you posted something, did you? I see you gave up chasing ComeOn for saying the Mayor is trying to cook the election. Did your crack legal team quit the case? Just admit you lied and I'll leave you alone too... or post your "explanation" so we can see how bogus it is.

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Uatu

Oct 4, 2010 4:42 PM

Classic hazelbotting

Select carefully something and twist its meaning by quoting out of context. When exposed, ignore the dishonest editing and try to draw attention to only the lie. Never admit corruption, defeat, or above all a lie. (Oops, now I'm starting to sound like Hazel's lawyers...)

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 4:39 PM

@Muse

One look at all the postings here shows you have all the maturity of a 5 yr old. Is it any wonder you needed to beg here for someone to hold your camera. I'll bet your straw boy Uatu will do the job. Nothing like a small man to do a small job.

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:35 PM

@Mississauga Muse

Your posts are starting to get as disorganized and disjointed as "Think About It" and "Come On". That's pretty bad. I guess the stress of "running for office" (LOL) is getting to you.

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:33 PM

Regardless

Regardlss, you wound up hoist with your own petard when you turned around and agreed that it's a dangerous area.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:22 PM

@ Mantis. Nice failing to mention that I also said there's no place in *Mississauga* that I feel safe at night?

Keep on MYTHissauga'ing!

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:21 PM

Mantis, Mantis, Mantis. The City of Mississauga LIES. Not only does it LIE, it's CHRONIC

The City of Mississauga even LIES about LYING! And get this! No one believed it back in 2005-2006. So how can a regular citizens prove his local government is little more than a Litany of Lies bundled in an entity that shows 8 out of 10 characteristics of a sociopath? You compile evidence! Biggest lie? Right at the Inquiry. Hazel McCallion, "Staff follow policies very very very diligently." Monday's Audit Committee? Presentation confirmed the degree to which they DON'T! Like MIRANET. Go all MYTHissauga publicly. The truth is revealed where the public ain't noticin'. Thanks for your input Mantis! I'll value it just as much as the City of MYTHissauga values "Honesty with the Citizens"!

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:12 PM

Did Your Or Did You Not

Are you denying that at 8:22 PM on July , 2010, you posted a comment regarding the Dixon Rd Kipling area that suggested that it's a safe and lovely area and included the following sentence: "No. I would not go there at night."??????

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:07 PM

Well Known

It's a well known fact on this site that you have admitted to keeping detailed records of posts and other communications (probably google searches and other things as well) on Mississauga city employees as well as other posters. You regularly quote from such fascist files.

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:05 PM

Speaking of Lying

Are you DENYING that you posted a comment about being afraid to go to that neighbouthood at night? You're as much of a joke as that idiot Donald Barber.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:05 PM

@ ThinkAboutIt, Therese Uatu (especially) check this out

Mantis writes, "Nothing racist about that post from your secret files". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'd ask the cretin to define what s/he means by "secret" but ain't nothin' comin' out of Mantis but LIES.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 4:03 PM

@ Mantis, giving your infinite capacity to lie, you might offer your services at the next Friends of Hazel Rally

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 4:02 PM

Nothing Racist

Nothing racist about that post from your secret files. It was a statement of fact about a neighbouthod that YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU WOULD NOT GO TO AT NIGHT FOR FEAR OF BEING THE VICTIM OF CRIME. I notice that you didn't include your self-immolation in your secret fascist files.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 3:59 PM

@ Mantis --a reminder of your RACISM and HATRED for Somalis

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43172810@N00/4747037365/sizes/o/ (and likely anything else that ain't white)

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 3:57 PM

On The Contrary

On the contrary, Muse, I am a model Canadian. I love my country and I've done my duty to defend it. I deeply proud of Canada and the things that this country truly stands for. I have great pride in our heritage and our history and I have a lot of hope for our future. That is in contrast to you, a completey negative and bitter person who seems to spend all her time hating and attacking.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 3:52 PM

@ Mantis, Such comments from a JOKE OF A CANADIAN

You disgrace this country!

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 3:47 PM

@WatcherOIO

Such bitterness from a joke of a politician forever chasing a job that you will never, under any circumstances obtain. Face it, the vast majority of voters quite rightly believe that you're a flake. You'll never be mayor of Mississauga and you'll probably never do better than 3 - 5% of the vote. Don't even get started about video recording - we're allvery familiar with your inability to follow the rules on video recording. You couldn't even keep yourself from breaking the rules and secretly video taping the witch hunt going on right now in this city.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 3:35 PM

It's what I've been saying for years (and you too, Watcher)

What MYTHissauga shovels to the public " the policy is designed to minimize distractions for the candidates and the audience. "You can't be a candidate and be fiddling with a camera,'" and the behind-the-scenes reality, "Recording devices cannot be left unattended to operate remotely within the room." Meaning Barber and I can't. BUT THE AUDIENCE CAN! Going to this is going to be like wading through turds. (a good thing I have four years experience documenting MYTHissauga municipal malfeasance so I'm prepared!).

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WatcherOIO

Oct 4, 2010 3:17 PM

Missing News spews pro-Hazel falsehoods again

Seriously, what kind of jerk can ever believe what the missing news prints, oh yes a Hazel supporter. Am I asked about this meeting and its issues - never - that would be proper reporting and doesn’t support Team McCallion. Truth is the MIRANET rules allow for video recording and one supporter to do it, so a totally false statement. Hands up who actually believe John Stewart. FOOL. I have posted the fascist control RULES that spells giving the advantage to Team McCallion. http://mayor-of-mississauga.com/MIRANET_love-in_for_re-electing_Hazel_Debate_2010_Mississauga_Election.htm And the Rogers release to show the candidates message will be lost. Sad how far we have strayed from Democratic values that so many fought for and often died for, even more we claim to send Canadian troops to die for protecting this?

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 3:13 PM

@ Private Still eager to await what your mind's concocted with "%$@#%$%@$# "

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 3:12 PM

@ Therese

Actually I got email from a volunteer. A sad surprise.....

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Therese Taylor

Oct 4, 2010 3:07 PM

@Muse Glad you got someone to attend with you

I was thinking about volunteering, but am glad to read someone stepped up to the plate for you.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 2:51 PM

@ ConcernedResident. WHAT?! NO READING SKILLS OR JUST AN #@$@#$#%^%^?

I'm not running for Mayor. Now bend over. I got some keystrokes for you, %$@#%$%@@!@$#@#%%^#@#@$#.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 2:45 PM

@ Private Oops and I forgot

I take back what I wrote with "GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF" (and a reminder. Please let the readers here know what your filthy mind concocted for "%$@#%$%@$#" And I want to raise that to "GO %$@#%$%@@!@$#@#%%^#@#@$# YOURSELF" --AND all your house pets.

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Uatu

Oct 4, 2010 2:44 PM

Here's where ConcernedResident is cowering today

What will it be, more lies or just ducking the question again? Funny how none of the other hazelbots have helped you out, isn't it? It's just as though you never really posted an explanation of how the Mayor can swear under oath that it is okay to engage in behaviour that she just outlawed for herself and Council. Did she wave her magic wand and change right into wrong overnight? Oh wait, don't want to give you any ideas for your "explanation"...

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 2:42 PM

To: Uatu, Coaltion, ThinkAboutIt, Therese... I found my "warm body"

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 2:42 PM

Oh Darn!

Gee Muse you caught me! What can I say, I'm Miranet/Mantis/Missy2/Hazel's kid. Damn I get around. You on the other hand are like a little child. "Waa! Waa! The City does this and I think it's wrong, so I can do it to!" That is so juvenile. You do know your not running for the Mayor of Senior Kindergarten, right? Quit your whining.

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Uatu

Oct 4, 2010 2:38 PM

@Private

Thanks for my daily chuckle. Do you play a sucker on TV as well?

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 2:38 PM

@ ConcernedResident, I get who you are now. MIRANET!

You wrote, "WTF is it with both of you, that you think only your rules apply?" WTF is my problem? IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY OF MISSISSAUGA CREATES ALL MANNER OF RULES AND CORPORATE POLICIES THAT THEY NOT ONLY DON'T FOLLOW, EVEN WHEN DRAFTING THOSE RULES/POLICIES THEY NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THEM! Thanks for asking!

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 2:35 PM

@ Private you're a total IDIOT!

You wrote, "Ursula Keuper-Bennett wrote.."GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF". You call that "filthy"? Oh reeeaaaaaally? So tell me. What does "%$@#%$%@$# " mean in YOUR filthy mind?

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 2:33 PM

Ursula Keuper-Bennett says "GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself". Again.

UK-B aka 'The Mississauga Muse' wrote; "Oct 4, 2010 11:31 AM @ Mantis, I can't say this often enough GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself. And anyone remotely related to you through DNA. " I have to ask; Why do the Mississauga News advertisers tolerate this??

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ConcernedResident

Oct 4, 2010 2:20 PM

@Muse and Barber

You have two options: Attend the debate and follow the rules, or do not attend the debate. Get this - NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO ATTEND! If you cannot follow MIRANET's rule, don't go. WTF is it with both of you, that you think only your rules apply?

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 1:55 PM

Ursula Keuper-Bennett wrote.."GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF

continued.... I think the organizing committee and other participating candidates should revisit this invitation to UKB. She will be an embarrassment to the debate by her presence, her need to bend/break the rules, and above all, her FILTHY MOUTH.

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Private

Oct 4, 2010 1:46 PM

Ursula Keuper-Bennett wrote...

..."GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF". UKB aka 'The Mississauga Muse' wrote (on 09.30.10 5:32 pm) ...."@ Missy2 Oh! And I forgot to add on the part of my < 2% constituents GO %$@#%$%@$# YOURSELF " This 'candidate' and her filthy mouth (hope the rest of her is not as filthy) has no place at this debate. She is an embarrassment to the legitamit candidates/process. Speaking of process, Ursula Keuper-Bennet is already comprimising the rules ("I just read their rules. "Turn cell phone ringers OFF" Nothing about not using cellphones to TWITTER"). Seems this person thinks rules are for everybody else. Here's another FYI on UKB; "Approval of Minutes of Planning Meeting of September 28, 2009 Katie (Mahoney) would like the minutes to reflect that Ursula Keuper-Bennett videotaped a portion of the meeting even after her request to videotape had been denied by the committee" I think the organizing committee should rethink

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WatcherOIO

Oct 4, 2010 12:18 PM

Missing News spews pro-Hazel falsehoods again.

Seriously, what kind of jerk can ever believe what the missing news prints, oh yes a Hazel supporter. Am I asked about this meeting and its issues - never - that would be proper reporting and doesn’t support Team McCallion. Truth is the MIRANET rules allow for video recording and one supporter to do it, so a totally false statement. Hands up who actually believe John Stewart. FOOL. I have posted the fascist control RULES that spells giving the advantage to Team McCallion. http://mayor-of-mississauga.com/MIRANET_love-in_for_re-electing_Hazel_Debate_2010_Mississauga_Election.htm And the Rogers release to show the candidates message will be lost. Sad how far we have strayed from Democratic values that so many fought for and often died for, even more we claim to send Canadian troops to die for protecting this?

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ComeOn

Oct 4, 2010 12:10 PM

Hazelites On Suicide Watch For Debate Night

We need to come together as a community and buddy up with a Hazelite on debate night to prevent them from doing something drastic. The good news is that their numbers keep falling as more see the light so now we only need four volunteers. Help save a dying breed -- keep a Hazelite happy from getting too blue on debate night!

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ComeOn

Oct 4, 2010 12:06 PM

Place Your Bets Hear -- Any Chance Hazel McCallion Comes Clean With Voters?

Just kidding. There is no chance. Hazel will either insist no questions about the Inquiry as she did at her press conferene or deny deny deny forget. Hazel long ago abandoned the truth in favour of the McCallion Trust -- apparently it pays better.

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Think About It

Oct 4, 2010 11:56 AM

You’re referring to the Inattentive Attention Deficit Disorderly’s Muse

The McCallionaires are Waging the Dog on 23% poling results and might not change much after the election. Unless someone caps off the 77% Traveling Wilburys down through out the Hamilton/Niagara Peninsula where the pooling had piloted under Peel’s portion of the MFP contract, someone has to pull the rug out to make for 77% votes unaccounted for . http://www.flickr.com/photos/7527071@N05/3484365583/in/set-72157617361537179/

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:48 AM

Mississauga Mayoral non-candidate seeks someone to "attend" three video cameras (operated remotely)

Okay. Anyone want to be a warm body for me? (I actually am considering bringing one of my turtles to attend the cameras but...) I would set up the angles I want on the three cameras and all you have to do is breathe in and out. Nothing more. I for one will be TWEETING live during the "debate". I just read their rules. "Turn cell phone ringers OFF" Nothing about not using cellphones to TWITTER. Let me know. I need One (1). Otherwise I'm bringing my turtle!

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:39 AM

@ Mantis I don't *want* to win, nor am I a candidate. Merely registered!

And good timing, this is a cut-and-paste from an email just sent to MIRANET. "'Recording devices cannot be left unattended to operate remotely within the room. Any participating Candidate insisting on operating any recording devices during the Debate will be given a choice: sit in the audience as an observer, or, participate in the Debate without any of their own recording devices operational in the room.' To MIRANET. You've forced me to decide between delivering my message about the urgent need for authentic, independent investigative authority into the MUSH sector to a camera or videotaping/documenting why a Hazel McCallion challenger stands a much higher chance of winning the 649 Jackpot than peeing upwind of $$$$Team Hurricane Hazel$$$$. Now you know why I begin my speeches with the statement that most municipalities in Ontario are 'morally beyond redemption'."

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 11:35 AM

My MY

My MY a bit tiuchy are we??? Why are you fringe candidates even having a debtate anyway? It's not like any of you has a snowball's chance in hell of ever becoming mayor.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:31 AM

@ Mantis, I can't say this often enough

GO @#$%$#^%&&^&^^%&$&$%^%^ yourself. And anyone remotely related to you through DNA.

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Mantis

Oct 4, 2010 11:28 AM

@Muse

Since when does Donald Barber pay attention to rules against video tapng procedings such as this? He couldn't even obey a judge's order not to video tape the unquiry.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:18 AM

@ Therese, cut off. re: your question.

To your question. Yes, "observers" can. But get this. The "observers" are "invited" only. Quote, "the audience (comprised of UTM student and MIRANET reps and guests" Reminds me of that ghastly "invitation only" ROGERS Mississauga Matters event back in September 2007. All approve by the evil empire of illusion.

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 11:17 AM

@ Therese Just proves Donald Barber right about MIRANET is all.

Here's the MIRANET videotaping rules. "NOTE: In the event a participating Candidate does not bring a supporter to the Debate, the Candidate will still not be allowed to operate any recording devices themself [sic] during the Debate. Recording devices cannot be left unattended to operate remotely within the room. Any participating Candidate insisting on operating any recording devices during the Debate will be given a choice: sit in the audience as an observer, or, participate in the Debate without any of their own recording devices operational in the room." Normally just to go up in front of Council I need to take an anti-anxiety med. I have no idea how to deal with something like this televised debate. It's SO beyond my experience because of my life-long stage fright. Bring a "campaign supporter"? I don't have a campaign! Now it seems that unless I have an attended camera, I can't videotape. And it's vital to have a complete gavel to gavel record of this ...this --Ritualized Drama of Mutual Pretense. To you

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Therese Taylor

Oct 4, 2010 10:45 AM

Muse, I have to agree with you. This statement seems out of line.

"You can't be a candidate and be fiddling with a camera,"says Dorothy Tomiuk. Shouldn't the choice be up to the individual? In our brave new media world, some are adept at handling a camera and speaking. Tomiuk's comment is authoriatarian and condescending. What about observers? Are they allowed to bring a camera in?

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The Mississauga Muse

Oct 4, 2010 9:42 AM

MIRANET DELIBERATELY MISLEADING! And just ohhhh so MYTHissauga!

Quote, "'Tomik [sic] says the policy is designed to minimize distractions for the candidates and the audience. "You can't be a candidate and be fiddling with a camera,' she says." Clearly MIRANET is like the City of MYTHissauga! It's what she doesn't say that you need to know! WHAT distraction?! These MIRANET twirps won't even let you set up a video camera away from the audience over in a corner and just let it run! And make no mistake this "rule" was crafted to silence both Donald Barber and me. We both know that ROGERS will edit the debates. MIRANET has forced us both to decide between being a speaker --or sitting in the audience. People understand that, right? DENIED even to set up a video camera aimed at the candidates and let it run! MIRANET --total POWER-TRIPPING @$$****s!

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