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Comments added Oct. 1/01 as the City is set to change the by-law.
This By-law has been changed to effectly allow for as many trees to cut as a land owner cares to over the years.  The Hazel way, a By-law that means next to nothing.

The City of Mississauga passed its Tree By-Law in an election year and backed by a very powerful Ratepayers group, but it has a couple strings attached.  First of all it only covers Ward 1 and to an even lesser degree in Ward 2 & 9.   Wards 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 have no Tree By-Law.  After a year, this "pilot project" would be reviewed.  Politicians like to do the unpopular things in the first year of their term so people will forget by the next election.  In many ways the by-law was written to fail and the way it was presented to the public also contributed.  Any ways, the City is set to "review" Mississauga's experiment with a Tree By-Law.

A public meeting will be held Oct. 3 - 2001 7 pm, at City hall.
Members of the public are welcome to attend and to speak.
Note if you are silent then you are counted as in agreement.

The City has a whole set of changes and could even
scrap the whole Tree By-Law.

If you would like more information or to get your name on the list to speak
call the Planner who is handling this,
David Marcucci 905 615-3458

If you can't attend this meeting you would need to get your comments in to him as soon as possible, as the City wants to have a report to deal with by
Dec. 5/01. There appears to be a survey that you can ask for.

Down to business, what are the details of interest?
At the public meeting held Sept. 27/01, at the Cawthra Community Centre the changes that City staff recommended were presented.   Over 100 turned out.  The meeting was video taped and the camera was pointed towards the side of the room that most of the down with the Tree By-Law were sitting on.   We were told there was a survey to fill out but there was none to be found by most, just the sheet detailing what the City plans on doing.  Maybe it will come in the mail.  Told right off the bat by the Ward Councillor that the current tree By-law is history and that she is a lay person when it comes to trees.

It is noted that this tree By-law should be City wide but that alone means it will likely not be supported by most of City Council.

City staff made it clear that this by-law would not interfere with development and the by-law is being changed to make it even more so.  It is also increasing the rates from $35 to $200 for persons removing trees that are not dead, dying or hazardous.  Still $35 for trees that are dead, dying or hazardous.  People were upset over $35 they are very upset over the increases.  On top of this cost, a person has to hire an Arborist to write a report about their tree(s) and they are not cheap.  Many people complained about how hard City staff made it for them to get permits.

City staff claimed the Tree By-Law was written so it didn't discriminate between developers and normal home owners.  But the Tree By-law clearly spells out that certain properties like nurseries and golf courses are not covered as well as the City, Peel Region and "any other government authority or utility corporation".   This allows the hydro corridor to be clear cut for development.  One gentleman stood up and noted a tree By-Law in another county that did in fact cover government trees, maybe the City should follow that model.  They were also noted as having a 2:1 replacement planting for trees cut down.

The size of the tree that can be cut has increased from tress with a diameter between 6 to 12 inches (15 to 30 cm), needing a permit to 20 inches or 50 cm.  The number of trees you can cut is also in the mix.  A class "B" permit allows for 5 or more trees 8 inches (20 cm).   I am not going into details here.  None the less by increasing the size of tree so much this means most trees will not be covered.  An important decision was made, that being, this Tree By-Law doesn't take into consideration the kind of trees that is being measured.  Many trees will never get to be 20 inches across.  In fact the City admits this will cut down greatly on people needing to get permits (about 12 per-year), and 99% will be developers.  The City doesn't suggest how many people decided not to cut down a tree as it would be too much bother.

I noted there is no City plan for greening the community.  That is to say how much and how many trees or other large plants should be in an area to gain what benefits.  When it comes time to negotiate with the land owner who wants to clear cut their property it would be helpful if there was a plan for that community to show a certain percentage of community should be home to trees and hedges.  That provide a benefit to the whole community.   I noted that if a people were going to plant replacement trees for the ones that are cut down, on a different part of their property then they should get a deal or no cost.   An idea that the Councilor generally agreed with.  This is where an over all plan comes in, after all, the concern is the slow loss of green in a community with no reasonable replacement.

Educating the public;
One of the strongest arguments made against the Tree By-Law is, that it is an attack on private property rights and the City has no right to tell people what they can or can't do on their private property.  In fact this is the lamest and dull witted line of reasoning to be used.  It is being used by the loudest persons as well.  I also noted at this meeting and when this by-law was first proposed that the City should produce a list of all the by-laws that already exist covering their property, that do say what land owners can and can not do as well as what the City requires them to do, on their private property.  This is not politically correct as then people would see the City is almost a co-owner of their property.  If people were upset over this Tree By-Law they would be really upset to see a full list of "The Rules (By-Laws)".
This list should be created not just to defeat this line of reasoning but also to inform the public what is expected of them, by the City and the community, as land owners.  These by-laws say you can't park trucks over a certain size in your driveways, your lawns have to be cut,  you need to have CO2 detectors in your homes, you can't let certain weeds grow on your property, you can't build most things on your property without City permission and they must be to City standards, no loud noises past 7 or before 7, can't have large fires in your yards and the list goes on and on.   So I find this line of reasoning the funniest as these same people who raise their voices over their rights are buying property in our City because it has all these by-laws that protect the value of their homes and make the community safe for them to live in.   These people claim to want to be free of government control over their land but in fact they would never move to a place where their neighbours do as they pleased.  Where their neighbours could pile wrecked cars on their front lawn.  Where their neighbours could dump hazardous waste in their backyard, etc., etc.  Talk about wanting your cake and eating it too.

To follow up on this, City by-laws are there to protect the whole community, from the value of your home to your own safety.   Using the City's by-laws as just a guide they show how we try and protect, what we are becoming aware of, as elements of the community that are valuable to the whole community.  In this case trees increases property values and protect our health.  Unfortunately their efforts don't  jump right out at  the persons who see little beyond what they want.  Those in the community who will take all the benefits from living in our City (with its rules), but none of the personal responsibilities to keep it a wonderful place to live in.  And yes they are a loud lot.

The City does have a list of the benefits from trees but it doesn't go into details and doesn't use dollar figures that would impress the many who just don't get it.

I noted the City should not charge for trees that need to be removals they are dead, dying or hazardous.  After all there is a by-law saying these tree need to be cut down due to safety concerns.  The Ward 1 Councillor did note that it was the Mayor who insisted that there had to be a fee for dead, dying or hazardous trees permits.   Sounds like she wanted to upset people as it was known at that time getting a permit for trees that had to come down or were coming down on their own, was what many complained about.

Most people agreed that developers should be ,mostly impacted by this by-law but remember our Mayor is the Queen of development, so that is not going to happen.  Even if it is reasonable.

The Councillor also had a straw vote for the recommendations or not.  I suggested that vote on keeping it the same and was a lone supporter of that.  In regards to the vote the Mayor has said the City doesn't do them.  The vote was not noted ahead of time, as more people would have come out for that.  The Ward 1  Councillor noted many Ratepayers groups were at the meeting but not the Cawthra Ratepayers' and Residents' Association.

City staff said they never refuse a permit, as only City Council can do that, instead they refund the money so you have no permit for the work and therefore can be fined.

Some good examples of  why a Tree By-law was needed, that were noted at the meeting.  First time land owners and new comers who cut down trees for a garden then decide a garden is too much work.  People who move in, cut down trees and move out in a year or two.  People who move into a treed community and don't want to do the work a tree calls for.  Most people who were pro-tree made it clear that if you want to live on property with few to no trees, buy property in an area with few to no trees.  Don't cut down your trees and still enjoy the benefits of your neighbours trees.  Some people wanted this to be put on a ballot.

There are many other things to say but this is all I can right now.

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