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Comments by others to this web-page 8.


Mississauga News - Aug. 25, 2009 - Letter by Councillor Carolyn Parrish

Change for the better

There has been quite a controversy over Council’s proposal to move Public Question Period from 19 Council sessions to committee meetings, of which there were 114 in 2008.

Of all jurisdictions in Ontario, only Mississauga and Brampton have PQP on the Council agenda.  We haven’t “banned” it, we’ve moved it to the committees where debates take place and decisions are actually made.

Council itself is highly ceremonial.  If you’ve ever attended, Council meetings are made up of presentations, awards and pro forma approvals of reports that have been debated and dealt with at committees.

Municipal government is the most open and accessible level of government in the country.  All your representatives vote as individuals, not according to the rules and restrictions of a political party.

All your representatives have offices and staff in City Hall – accessible by mail, e-mail, phone or in person.  All meetings are open to the public, with the exception of In Camera portions dealing with personnel, real estate or legal matters.

Any Canadian citizen residing in Peel can submit his or her name as a candidate for office – no nomination battles, no approval by backroom gurus, no quota based on gender, race or ethnicity.  And when elected by the residents of a ward, your councillor accounts to nobody but you.

Today, Council can be held captive by one, two or three gadflies who choose to ask their questions on camera, often not caring if they actually receive answers or affect the outcome of a serious debate on policy or budget.  Every hour of their posturing costs the taxpayers of Mississauga at least $10,000 in staff and facilities time.

And what of the 750,000 residents who don’t want to bring the business of Council to a dead halt while they perform for the cameras?

Public Question Period is a quaint anachronism from small-town days when Council was more like a friendly town-hall meeting.  Today, we are the sixth-largest city in Canada coping with tough economic times and dramatic needs in areas of infrastructure, public transit and poverty.

We can no longer afford to sit through yet another attempt to do a convoluted “gotcha” on the mayor, councillors or staff.

We can no longer spend a public hour listening to theories on the perils of the Jefferson Salamander when the very urgent needs of a sophisticated, cosmopolitan city must be addressed.

There are more than 100 other meetings per year, although not on television, where those who want to chat with Council can.

If the real people – those who hold two jobs, commute on our congested roads, worry about their children’s future or where the next mortgage payment is coming from – were asked to philosophize on the death of democracy as we know it because PQP is redirected to committees, we’d get more than a few baffled looks.

Let’s get on with running our city efficiently for the real needs of the real people, and let the philosophers join a debating club.


Ward 6 City Councillor Carolyn Parrish is a former chair of the Peel District School Board, where she introduced the concept of public question period.


Comments by others, 8, to this web-page;


The Mississauga Muse     Aug 27, 2009 1:47 AM

Both Parrish and McCallion's use of "answer" a welcome change from bogus, deceptive "responses"

“We’ve dealt with this as a Mayor all these years–I look at it as an improvement in the administration of the business of the City. It really is. I think today we need to look at efficiency and improvement of the administration of the business. This is one item that I think is going to do that. You know what? In my opinion citizens that are really sincere and dedicated, are going to benefit from this system in a major way. They’re going to see it’s dealing with their questions more professionally in more depth and with more facts and data to answer the question. And I believe we have to do that, and this is the way, in my opinion, it can be done much better than it has in the past.” Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion TRANSCRIPT, Mississauga Council Meeting August 5, 2009. See that “answer the question”…


Think About It     Aug 26, 2009 8:15 PM

If we read between lines

The evidence from the stone walling of our Municipal Freedom of Information, councilors are twisting their nose out of joint to raise the bar on public access while citizens want the lowering of the bar to include In Camera. Public Question Periods are not a new concept and never were. The purchase of new camera's were originally meant to focus on city councilors under Transparency Bill 142 after Cliff Gyles got his fingers clipped accessing personnel information on victims, through the FOI Act , when he had left the Federal Public Works department in which he now receives his full Canada Pension Plan


Uatu     Aug 26, 2009 6:11 PM

So many things wrong here, hard to know where to begin (IV)

Finally, I want to point out the way Councillor Parrish argues. She uses emotionally loaded words: gadfly, posturing, held captive. She attributes uproven motives, then attacks them. She describes the nature of Council meetings in completely opposite terms, then uses both to "support" her premise. She presents unrealistic alternatives as practical solutions: you too can run for office! She asserts, without proof and in the face of my experience and evidence presented almost daily by the Mississauga Muse, that "your councillor accounts to nobody but you." (Councillor Parrish, please explain how I can hold my Councillor accountable.) Last but not least, she offers herself as the voice of the "the real people – those who hold two jobs, commute on our congested roads..." If Councillor Parrish and Council really cared about the "real people" then meetings would be held in the evenings, when "real people" could attend.

* Agree 2


Uatu     Aug 26, 2009 6:11 PM

So many things wrong here, hard to know where to begin (III)

Councillor Parrish also wants to eat her cake and have it too. When it suits her position, Council is purely ceremonial; however, when people ask questions at PQP, she writes, "We can no longer spend a public hour listening to theories on the perils of the Jefferson Salamander when the very urgent needs of a sophisticated, cosmopolitan city must be addressed." Well which is it, Councillor? Ceremony or urgent business?

* Agree 1    -    Disagree 1


Uatu     Aug 26, 2009 6:10 PM

So many things wrong here, hard to know where to begin (II)

Parrish writes, "Council itself is highly ceremonial. If you’ve ever attended, Council meetings are made up of presentations, awards and pro forma approvals of reports that have been debated and dealt with at committees." Surely this is an editing error. Did she really mean to let that be printed? This is the best argument she could make that Council meetings shouldn't even exist. Just hold a ceremony once in a while, done. Get on with the real work and stop wasting time. If Council wants to be open and transparent about how Mississauga is managed--and I don't mean governed; Council supposedly governs but Staff manages--then televise General Committee meetings, where we are told all the "real work" gets done. If Council meetings are ceremonial, then it's blatantly obvious that it's Council "performing for the cameras."

* Agree 2    -    Disagree 1


Uatu     Aug 26, 2009 6:10 PM

So many things wrong here, hard to know where to begin (I)

Let's start with the premise that this is an "either-or" choice. Opening up committee meeting to questions is a positive step. I have yet to see Parrish or anyone else explain why that requires removing it from Council meetings. Instead, we get ridiculous claims about "performing for the cameras." I have watched numerous Council meetings on Rogers and I have yet to get the impression that anyone but the Councillors "perform for the cameras". Councillor Parrish knows, or should know at least, that is is dishonest debating to attribute motives to your opponent so that you can attack them. Where is her proof that anyone is performing? Forthcoming right after the pigs finish their fly-by, methinks.

* Agree 1


The Mississauga Muse     Aug 26, 2009 3:09 PM

Parrish is wrong --or being deceptive. Town of Aurora proves it.

Parrish writes, "Of all jurisdictions in Ontario, only Mississauga and Brampton have PQP on the Council agenda.” WRONG! Check out the Town of Aurora Council meeting agendas.."TOWN OF AURORA COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA...III OPEN FORUM" And quoting from Town of Aurora’s procedural by-law. "Open Forum 3.1 Open Forum shall be considered a part of the formal order of business of Council. Any ratepayer of the Town of Aurora is entitled to make a deputation to Council on a matter that is or is not on the Agenda of Council provided the maximum time allotted is five minutes for each delegate and the total time of all delegates for this portion of the Agenda be restricted to twenty minutes. By-law 4912-07.C". Also, the other City of Mississauga atrocity is to bray “Leading Today for Tomorrow” and they’re forever checking what other municipalities are doing and then FOLLOW! (And often follow “convenient” information!)

* Agree 3


AndrewHS     Aug 26, 2009 2:25 PM

Impose rules at Council

Rather than removing our tradition of PQP at Council - unique to Mississauga, apparently - would it not be feasible to impose time limits and relevancy rules instead? In fact, these rules are being proposed for the new committee PQP sessions: why not at Council? This would save time and money, and keep Council business on track, while still preserving an important part of our local democracy.

* Agree 2



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