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Mississauga News - Dec. 26, 2012 - By David Paterson

Boy, 13, arrested for Facebook fight video

A 13-year-old boy is facing a mischief charge after being arrested for allegedly filming two girls fighting and posting the video on his Facebook profile.

The boy, who is a student at Tomken Road Middle School, was arrested at his school on Dec. 19 after police received a complaint about the video.

The boy is alleged to have shot the footage, which shows two girls fighting and a number of other students cheering from the sidelines, on his cellphone.

The incident is believed to have taken place near Dixie Road Public School while the boy was on his way home from classes.

His mother said she believes staff at Tomken Road notified Peel Regional Police about the video, although the police would not confirm that.
She claims her son received no warning from school staff before being called to the main office, where he was placed in handcuffs by a police officer.

The mother, who said she has a long-running dispute with the school over her son's education, accused both the police and school staff of over-reacting to the incident.
"In a society where that is a school and they are supposed to teach right from wrong, how does this approach make sense?
It is not logical," she said.
While condemning her son's actions in posting the video as "a very cruel and ugly thing to do" she said that many of her son's friends had been shocked by his arrest as they did not realize posting a video could be an offence.

She said arresting her son was simply answering bullying with another form of bullying.
"As adults, rather than teaching kindness, we are teaching meanness," she added.

The boy is scheduled to appear in court in January to answer the mischief charge. Tomken Road Middle School was closed for the holidays and no one on staff could be reached for comment.


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jennz101         Dec 28, 2012 6:33 PM

Hi

Ok so I read this first in the news paper and I know this guy I go to the same school as him and what he did is bad but he should not be arrested this is just wrong


Mantis             Dec 28, 2012 6:50 AM

Three Major Issues Here

The way I see it there are three major issues here:
1) This was none of the school's business - it happened off school grounds where the school has no jurisdiction over the student.
2) The boy was not involved with the fight - he simply saw it and filmed it and yet he is the only one to get charged.
3) There is no indication of any "cyber-bullying" in this case.
All we know is that two girls engaged in a cat-fight and a boy filmed it and posted the video to you-tube.
There are plenty of similar videos on Youtube and you can be those posters were not likewise chaged criminally.


sdipper             Dec 28, 2012 4:48 AM

The charges won't stick

The Toronto Star reports that the boy has been charged with mischief. Mischief charges relate to wilfully destroying or damaging property and/or data. While the boy seemed to be an unresponsive bystander, I don't think that he should have been charged with mischief. The only charge would be against posting a video that identifies under-aged people who may be involved in a criminal act. If he had blurred out the faces, then it would be no different than a TV station posting a similar video. However, what the boy allegedly did does not constitute a mischief charge by definition. As one commenter mentioned, there may be more to the story than we know.

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erin mills             Dec 28, 2012 3:55 AM

tell me this did not happen

what are the charges? The kid filmed a fight which is probably good for evidence just in case more became of this or something bad happened afterwards and he gets charged? Are you kidding me. So filming is against the law? Since when. This is a joke really terrible, I feel sorry for the parents and the kid, The Police should be ashamed of them self putting a 13 year old in handcuffs for filming a fight. Imagine the harm they have done to the kid and the parents. The Police go way overboard sometimes and are way out of line. No wonder crime is everywhere in Peel, I challenge the Police to do something about the Drugs in Peel or the Escort services in Peel that are openly on the internet on a daily basis. We have very serious problems in Peel and it does not include a 13 year old video tapping a fight. GIVE ME A BREAK what type of example of Policing is this. I cant believe Im reading this.

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AreYouJoking             Dec 28, 2012 12:49 AM

Kids Mom

I laughed at the mother questioning the actions of school/police, then saying that children "don't know right from wrong". You're a mother. Are you not aware of your own responsibilities in raising a child? The stupidity of this woman is too much, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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AreYouJoking         Dec 28, 2012 12:46 AM

@Mantis/Anyone disagreeing with the police

Really? Some of the asinine and archaic comments here are truly disturbing. We see serious cases of cyber bullying constantly. It's important to take action early and teach children that the internet/Facebook is not the "wild west". Mom sounds like she's on the welfare cheques.

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Mantis             Dec 27, 2012 4:48 PM

@Papercut

No kidding. What really steams me though is the schools then trying to take action on things that happened off school property. They have no right to get invovled with those situations.

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Papercut             Dec 27, 2012 3:35 PM

Videos

“Back in the day”, when kids had a beef, they took it off school grounds, threw their punches, shook hands and that was the end of it. Today, everything is videotaped and played over and over on line for the whole world to see. It doesn’t ever go away.

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goonkist             Dec 27, 2012 2:21 PM

@Karma

How mature do you expect a 13 yo to be? And a casual school yard scrap is far from bullying.

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Mantis             Dec 27, 2012 12:29 PM

@Karma88

That's precisely my point. They have done away with common sense and replaced it with "zero tolerance".

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Karma88     Dec 27, 2012 9:58 AM

Good

Sorry but cyber bullying and similar stories are nothing new. They have implemented a NO TOLERANCE policy that was being enforced. This guy will hopefully see how serious being an immature idiot bystander in bullying is. Also the other students at the school will see the same. This boy will never learn though, when mom sits back and blames the school and the police for her son's actions. She should take away all his internet access and gadgets that support wifi for a while until he grows up.

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Mantis             Dec 27, 2012 9:31 AM

@Ernst Blofeld

I agree completely with you about the cuffs. Eveyrone taken into custody is cuffed as a matter of policy for officer safety as well as the safety of the accused. My problem in this case is the involvement of police at all. to me, it is an overreaction by the school.

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Ernst Blofeld             Dec 27, 2012 8:14 AM

True...

...that the handcuffs are a bit extreme. However. It is protocol. A policy put in place to ensure the safety of the person wearing them, and the police who put them on. It is easier to place handcuffs on at the outset of the arrest, instead of waiting until the person begins fighting or being uncooperative. Look at it this way: They don't place the kid in handcuffs, and he decides to resist - kick, punch, whatever. The police then have to subdue him, putting both the officer and the student at risk of injury. Not only does that look far worse than just walking him out in cuffs - but the public outcry of unneccessary force would be deafening. Stop being a bunch of bleeding hearts. If the kid was such a sweet little boy, his mom wouldn't be in a dispute with the school, and he never would have been arrested. There is likely more to this story than what was revealed to the media.

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30                         Dec 27, 2012 7:07 AM

Mom Needs a Reality Check

While I agree that handcuffs (and perhaps even the charges) are a bit extreme, the mother is way off base here. Blaming everyone else for your child's behaviour speaks volumes. As does the fact that she has a long-running dispute with the school. Also, why would school staff warn her son before calling him to the office, and what difference would that make? Sounds to me like the mother needs to take a good hard look at her responsibility for her son's actions.

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Mantis                 Dec 26, 2012 9:34 PM

Over-Reaction

Schools today seem too quck to over-react to every little thing. I can clearly remember that we used to have fist-fights in the school yard and the teachers would break up the combatants, and send them to the principal's office for a stern lecture before sending them back to class. Now, the same sort of thing involves, police, criminal charges social workers, suspensions and expulsions. At some point, schools have substtiuted zero-tolerance for common sense.

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ColonelT                 Dec 26, 2012 7:30 PM

This is both bizzare and obscure

I am a parent. It also happens that my kid is going to Tomken Rd. MS. I feel an urge, to calm down the parties at war because it will be your kids that will suffer at the end. It is your kids that will be dragged into court room and exposed to screaming parents, indifferent police officers, pathetic disputes over who did what while lawyers will charge their usual hourly fee. One thing is certain: your kids will step out of that courtroom the same they went in. It is You, my dear parents along with the impotent school stuff that will mess up their childhood. Moms and Dads, you are way better off to Bahamas . This is no longer kids fight, this escalated to a dirty parents fight and your kids will be collateral. From where I am standing, the whole incident qualifies as disgusting behavior of upset parents and lame school staff . On the personal side I am sorry that my kid is exposed to this kind of pornography.

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Mad Max                     Dec 26, 2012 7:02 PM

Really?

Taking a 13 yr old away in handcuffs? A lecture should do, unless there is more to the story.

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Sparks                     Dec 26, 2012 4:02 PM

Is it any wonder?

With a mother like this.

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ConcernedResident             Dec 26, 2012 3:22 PM

Mom, you are absolutely clueless

And we wonder why society is going into the toilet?

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