Opening comments: More at the end.
This article notes that Peel police BLACK SHIRTS (B-S), are "involved in allegations of misconduct" but not what they did - well you can dress them up but they don't change their colours - BLACK & the party never ends!
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Globe and Mail - July 5, 2010 - By Rebecca Lindell, Vancouver
RCMP disclose details of police misconduct during Olympics Another officer was sent home for coming to work without bullets. The majority of the incidents, however, involved “inappropriate intoxication,” allegations of unwanted sexual advances, and altercations between police officers and staff on the cruise ship that housed members of the security unit. One officer, RCMP Staff Sergeant Suzanne Denise Marie Martel of Ottawa, was criminally charged with shoplifting at a Burnaby store. The incidents were disclosed by the BC RCMP at a news conference in Vancouver on Monday after receiving at least four Freedom of Information requests from the media. The ISU has handed over all the files to the officers’ home forces, which will decide on further disciplinary action, said BC RCMP Inspector Tim Shields in an interview on Monday. Another 33 incidents of alleged misconduct were also investigated, but none of the officers involved were sent home. The ISU was made up of 6,200 police officers from across Canada who provided security services for 90 days before, during and after the Winter Olympics. The officers involved in allegations of misconduct represented the RCMP, Abbotsford Police Department, Peel Regional Police and Ontario Provincial Police. Several of the incidents involved police officers leaving unsecured guns lying around, in places including a washroom, their bedrooms and Vancouver airport. A few other complaints involved officers using foul or disrespectful language. One officer was accused of trespassing into a rail yard and throwing rocks at parked train cars, while another was found sleeping on the job. It was also alleged that an RCMP officer grabbed an Estonian dignitary and ripped his suit. The police also disclosed that one officer called 911 from his cruise ship accommodation while he was drunk. One of the more bizarre allegations was that a person wearing a balaclava at a Whistler gas station refused to take it off and showed police credentials before leaving. He could not be identified and the file was closed. There were three other instances where the police officers involved in the complaints could not be identified. “These [incidents] are unusual because we had more than a zero tolerance approach to any allegations,” Insp. Shields said. “We were watchful of any misbehaviour on or off duty, including what could be perceived as a minor incident in a bar after hours.” The most surprising action, Insp. Shields said, was taking the photo of the hockey jerseys. The officer snapped the picture almost immediately after signing the agreement not to do so and was turned in by a co-worker, he said. But the ISU is very happy overall with the performance of the police officers who worked the Olympics, Insp. Shields said. “Disciplinary matters were dealt with swiftly and decisively and virtually all the incidents were relatively minor in the whole scheme of things,” he said. “More importantly, the Games were safe and they were secure for athletes as well as spectators to the city.” Comments by others, 153, to this web-page; mountieforever 7/8/2010 1:42:20 PM Made in China 7/8/2010 3:45:03 AM RickyJ 7/7/2010 12:18:13 PM PNoel 7/6/2010 11:35:08 PM Maggy Carter 7/6/2010 3:57:10 PM 7/5/2010 7:52:33 PM pants7 7/5/2010 7:56:30 PM sean smith 7/5/2010 8:01:35 PM The amount of agent provocateurs in Toronto are proof that they are a menace to our democracy and society. JOHNNY ROTTEN2 7/5/2010 8:05:39 PM captain.danger 7/5/2010 8:11:04 PM Joe O1 7/5/2010 8:22:29 PM The time has come for an independent review of our national police force. These guys are becoming a farce, only with serious powers which they seem to regularly abuse and then try to cover up. Enough, where is Dudly Do Right when you need him!! Winch 7/5/2010 8:29:14 PM Jomo Wanjala 7/5/2010 8:30:24 PM BazzaRichie 7/5/2010 8:34:02 PM Winch "7/5/2010 8:29:14 PM JLR 7/5/2010 8:37:35 PM 7/5/2010 8:39:32 PM Winch 7/5/2010 8:42:11 PM The unit was led by the RCMP and consists of members of the RCMP, Vancouver Police Department, West Vancouver Police Department and the Canadian Forces. How about a breakdown of who did what? RVinCP2 7/5/2010 8:53:46 PM RGOB 7/5/2010 8:57:16 PM Kevin.Montreal 7/5/2010 9:00:41 PM Too funny Kevin Desmoulin 7/5/2010 9:06:32 PM Nuts eh lol Don Portz 7/5/2010 9:06:47 PM JimParker1 7/5/2010 9:08:03 PM k moss winnipeg 7/5/2010 9:11:20 PM Sally Bee 7/5/2010 9:15:38 PM I think that is a little strong. However, there can be no excuses for such behaviour - on or off duty. I have come across the "I'm an RCMP officer" card myself, when a complainant phone my place of work looking for a concession on an item he had purchased that was way past the warranty date. He wanted preferential treatment because of his 'badge'. Very wrong of him to expect that. Abusing their power and position - whether in fun or otherwise - is totally unacceptable. I think I would be questioning the education and training of these officers. There is obviously a fault somewhere in the system. 7/5/2010 9:17:30 PM Iconoclast 7/5/2010 9:18:08 PM I feel so safe. PJ Graham 7/5/2010 9:22:00 PM manologic 7/5/2010 9:23:44 PM Muhammad_Akbar 7/5/2010 9:28:32 PM - If you kill someone at the airport, you get to drink and drive. It would be as fun as being a thug for General Franco! Yogie 7/5/2010 9:42:34 PM Barney Fife: "Well, I guess to sum it up, you could say, there's three reasons why there's so little crime in Mayberry. There's Andy, and there's me, and JLR 7/5/2010 9:49:55 PM That should have been reported to the RCMP complaints commission. This is right out of Serpico.We had an officer in Ottawa who thought it was okay to take (shoplift) free coffee and muffins in the Courthouse cafeteria because he was a police officer.This was not an RCMP and it was many years ago. But is an old-fashioned sense of entitlement for their badge that is waaayyyyy over the line. Almost like journalists expecting the Order of Canada for interviewing the famous.Not for anything they,themselves ,have done. JLR 7/5/2010 10:02:57 PM Stephen Saines 7/5/2010 10:04:21 PM Google News shows over a hundred news sources reporting the story, but to make a point, how's this in the National Pest? [The RCMP: a police force in denial ] (National Pest Editorial) Those damn lefties, eh? Korby 7/5/2010 10:08:57 PM A key indicator of healthy policing in Canada would be to ask any police officer if they view the public as mere 'civilians.' If they reply yes, usually the case. This is how policing has become skewered, for they the police too are civilians serving largely in municipalities. Most Canadians do not want one fused, heavily armed, jack-booted paramilitary police as we saw recently at the G20. In the early 21st C Canada is slipping towards police state. 7/5/2010 10:20:30 PM Well, like I've said before, what do you expect from a job that only requires a grade 12 education. Oh boy. Do you know why they act the way they do? Because they can,. Nothing wil happen to them. If something does happen they run to there all expense paid union lawyers utter for some comfort and protection. Have a nice day! LYLE LYLE CROCODILE 7/5/2010 10:21:51 PM Ericka from America 7/5/2010 10:23:53 PM Don Portz 7/5/2010 9:06:47 PM What valid reason could there be for releasing this report a half year after the fact? Refusal to investigate your war crimes Preventing Ann Coulter from speaking Refusal of your MPs to have their expenses audited Illegal behavior of your largest police force during G20 Spending the impossible sum of 1 billion dollars for security that was botched and no one is accountable. Multi-week ongoing fiasco with your national security chief and Chinese influence of your pols. Now drunken RCMPs fortunately without bullets No one ever gets fired, people will always support the government and these things are happening with increased frequency. Why does it take an American to tell you there is a trend here that ain't good? loid 7/5/2010 10:24:34 PM sniper 7/5/2010 10:26:59 PM Remember the Vancouver Chinese dude and the wrong address fiasco. What ever happened to that case? Last I heard he was suing the Vancouver PD. But what about the cop who gave him the beaten? Probably back out on the road beating others. loid 7/5/2010 10:30:40 PM Don Portz 7/5/2010 10:31:18 PM Bishops Court 7/5/2010 10:45:48 PM We might have a few rotten cops a few politicians who don't want their expenses exposed and have an opposition that will do anything for power including throw accusations of torture around. But we did not bring the world to it's knees thanks to your country's crooked bankers and scammers. Clean up your own mess before you try and clean up ours. Farkin Bastiges 7/5/2010 10:51:46 PM Athabascan Jim 7/5/2010 10:53:04 PM
Royal Canadian Mounted Police Assistant Commisioner Bud Mercer in Vancouver, British Columbia February 20, 2009.
Complaints range from ‘inappropriate’ drinking to shoplifting to reporting for duty with an empty gun. Andy Clark/ Reuters
Fifteen members of the RCMP Vancouver 2010 Integrated Security Unit were sent home during the Games for misconduct that included skipping out of work to catch a hockey game and breaching a confidentiality agreement by taking pictures of Team Canada jerseys.
As a mountie for a number of years, I'm glad to see a positive action respecting the behaviour of those that bring discredit to the Force. Unfortunately the Force as with all police forces are a reflection of society, having both good and bad. However it is a known reality that the Force as with most other police forces have from the beginning covered up most of their misconduct. The Force is in touble and that was the reason for the appointing of a Commissioner from outside the Force. I along with many disagreed with this. There is a real need for a civilian oversight not only for the the benefit of the public but for the members themselves due to the internal corruption.
I reinterate this is not a problem specific to the RCMP but to most of the forces in the country.
One only has to look at the recent G20 incident in Toronto. The outright lying of Chief Blair of the Toronto Force, the fact that all commanding officers of the forces involved, the Armed Forces,RCMP,OPP,Peel Region et al, had knowledge of the correct interpertation of the law ,however knowingly failed to correct Blair's statements and directions , breaching their trust to the public, I believe a criminal code offence. The stance they took caused their officers to misrepresent the law putting both their members and the public in harms way.
There is a stong belief amongst a number of police officers that it is acceptable to break the law to enforce the law.
The point is if you have persons in charge who break the law or act in certain ways to circumvent or supress the law , what do you expect from those who look to them for guidance.
I agree better protocols have to be established for hiring and training but most impotantly better man management involving fairness and honesty have to be established within the force.
A recent TV show "THE Bridge" written by an ex Metro Toronto officer should be viewed by all to get a better understanding of the practices of the brotherhood of policing
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What else is new about cops in Canada? Corruption, abuse of power, perjury, etc.....
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Police are just average people. No BETTER no worse. The problem is they are getting paid like they are superheroes. They make around 1000 dollars with overtime to stand around at the events. At the G8 meeting in Huntville there were 4500 police officers and almost no people. Many spent their days at the beach and on houseboats while claiming their 1000 dollars a day. I want disclosure on what pubic employees make. Afterall the are our employees. Only then we can have a real discussion on taxes and deficits.
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Wow full disclosure, good for the RCMP.
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Like many others, I have been and continue to be highly critical of the RCMP. The Dzeinski killing and cover-up illustrates just how completely the force had been corrupted, mismanaged and damaged. But unlike others, I am loathe to throw the baby out with the bath water. This used to be a fine institution, an international symbol of dedication and professionalism. The symbol is still there but the rot has set in. If it is to be saved, an immediate drastic overhaul is essential. A first step is to replace Commissioner Elliot. He no longer enjoys the respect of the rank and file, government and least of all the Canadian public. Indeed there is a dearth of talent and integrity throughout the senior ranks. Consequently the new Commissioner should come from outside the force - preferably a highly respected senior member of the Canadian Armed Forces fresh from the war in Afghanistan. His/her mandate should be to restore discipline within the ranks, respect for civil rights, and the sense of pride and integrity that once existed within the force. Beyond the executive management, there needs to be a tough, independent review board that takes action without waiting for complaints to be filed. That board should comprise a cross-section of Canadians with outstanding records for integrity and grit. Finally, every new RCMP cadet should be required to work in the community for three incident free years during which time their integrity, judgement and psychological demeanor would be constantly monitored. Only after successfully completing this probationary period should they become permanent members of the force and only then should they be allowed to carry weapons. Tough? Demanding? Yes, but that is the minimum necessary to restore the credibility and respect that the RCMP enjoyed for so many years.
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It says a lot about the RCMP mgmt for coming clean with these breaches in member conduct; but on the other hand it leaves a lot of questioning of who is in charge of recruitment and training.
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Well, at least they didn't kill anyone.
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This is just the tip of the iceberg of what these pack of fascist thugs are up to.
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Time to rid our nation of the RCMP!!! They have embarrassed themselves beyond repair!!
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Excellent - maybe they can come clean about agent provocateurs in Toronto.
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Yeah hide this story for six months and then release it when there are other high profile news stories today!
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Boy, if you're a cop-hating lefty, the Globe and Mail is the place to be. All kinds of cop-bashing goodness, all the time.
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I'm no lefty - but feel free to hang a label on me if it helps boost your self esteem - or you can just let the media label me instead - that's their main function after all.
Boy, if you're a cop-hating lefty, the Globe and Mail is the place to be. All kinds of cop-bashing goodness, all the time."
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Thank god we sold the rights to the mounties to Disney BEFORE their reputation self-destructed.(in was NEVER high for those in the know).
Dumping a stock at just the right moment. :-)
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Not surprised at all.....There should be many more but not reported...
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Time to rid our nation of the RCMP!!! They have embarrassed themselves beyond repair!!
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These were not all RCMP.
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What about the hookers on the cruise ship?
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Our mounted police, oh how the mighty have fallen. Hard to respect the RC's anymore... these, in the article, are all small things but there are huge incidences in the recent past that have cast a shadow on a once respected force
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Another officer was sent home for arriving at work without any bullets.
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"One of the more bizarre allegations was that a person wearing a balaclava at a Whistler gas station refused to take it off and showed police credentials before leaving."
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So we have 15 members of the RCMP (and possibly other police forces) of 6200 members that were sent home for various reasons and one under criminal charges for shop lifting. So that represents 0.24% of the force.for midemeanours (if you can call felling asleep one) and 0.016% for criminal offenses. So some of you posters will suggest it was higher. OK lets asy twice as high. So what does that do to the percentages.
It does not matter who or ehat you are there is a percentage that do not live up to exact standards expected.
Can any of the complainers be able to say they have never, ever broken the law let alone not get caught??? If you say you are one of those you are full of sh-t
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Several more examples of commentary by individuals who do not have their facts in order. The security forces was made up of scores of different police forces from across Canada - NOT just the RCMP or BC police forces - private security and members of the CF. Lighten-up on the RCMP!
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6200 officers protecting the community for 2 months - and doing a great job - and this silly bunch of insignificant findings is news? - give me a break - i was there and the security was awesome - not a chance i would issue a report like this if it was going to be front page news and fodder for you anonymous poster morons
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Someone here refers to the RCMP as "fascist thugs".
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Canada's keystone cops, and these are the people who we pay to protect us, God help us.
All that money wasted on the G20 would have been better spent on proper training our police forces across Canada.
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RCMP misconduct, Toronto Police misconduct, CSIS chief misconduct.
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It represents only the tip of the iceberg. The Police are their own political party with license to kill. The people must take ownership of the forces and stop relying on weak willed politicians to provide oversight. It will never happen.
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This is Canada. Nothing happens to the riff raff and thugs we hire as police officers. Being a police officer gets you a license to steal, drink and drive, rape prostitutes and teenage street kids of your choice. No charges are ever levied and when they are laid in order to placate citizens groups, judges will always find them innocent. Same goes for murdering innocent touristrs and natives. Yeah Canada.
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I want my son to be an RCMP officer.
- If you sexually assault someone, you get a free trip home.
- If you lie in court, nothing bad happens.
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Another officer was sent home for arriving at work without any bullets.
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even Barney Fife ha d a bullet.
[patting gun]
baby makes three."
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"I have come across the "I'm an RCMP officer" card myself, when a complainant phone my place of work looking for a concession on an item he had purchased that was way past the warranty date. He wanted preferential treatment because of his 'badge'. Very wrong of him to expect that."
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The most offensive demonstration that the police are their own political party is when they march IN UNIFORM demanding certain laws be upheld or amended. They should enforce the law and not as a group try to influence politicians. They can,of course ,as individuals, try to push and shove politicians the way they want them to go as we all do do. Their INDIVIDUAL right. Our INDIVIDUAL right. But to blackmail with their badge and uniform is junta or worse.
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Winch writes:
[Boy, if you're a cop-hating lefty, the Globe and Mail is the place to be. All kinds of cop-bashing goodness, all the time. ]
Gee, may I suggest you read a little more widely, or do your dragged knuckles render that difficult?
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/22/the-rcmp-a-police-force-in-denial/
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Most police services in Canada are municipal constabularies based upon the British system of policing. The RCMP being the exception. Founded as a frontier police under Federal command.
FACT RCMP development & history has seen a continual erosion of its size and scope of power due to abuse.
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NO! REALLY?
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"Now that I’ve got that off my chest, here’s my bellyache about lefties: I think they are inconsistent, illogical and hypocritical, which takes away 99 per cent of their credibility..."
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So we have 15 members of the RCMP (and possibly other police forces) of 6200 members that were sent home for various reasons and one under criminal charges for shop lifting. So that represents 0.24% of the force.for midemeanours (if you can call felling asleep one) and 0.016% for criminal offenses. So some of you posters will suggest it was higher. OK lets asy twice as high. So what does that do to the percentages.
It does not matter who or ehat you are there is a percentage that do not live up to exact standards expected.
Can any of the complainers be able to say they have never, ever broken the law let alone not get caught??? If you say you are one of those you are full of sh-t
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Every one of these appalling articles always comes with a mathematical genius like yourself to remind everyone how insignificant the number of government offenders is. How many drunken protectors of the public without bullets in his gun does it take to consider it a problem?
This string of scandal began with your
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Don't open your doors to the police. Call 911 and get your video camera out.
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Not as bad as Winch but then you really don't want to get that ridiculous.
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Erika: You are beautiful. You questionwhy I would simply use interesting statistical data and then you go on to rant and rave about something totally irrelevant. Sorry I did not give you anything to refute in a normal and realistic manner.
Have a Good evening />
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Wow... Slow day at the Globe and Mail. Why is this a story
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Of course the mounties don't tell us what police forces these fine outstanding constables are from...
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