THE DEMOCRATIC REPORTER
Pages of Special Interest;
Other Table of Contents;
Scanned, recopied or Internet copy, if there are errors, please e-mail me with corrections:
Opening comments: More at the end.
And so it begins - ...............
Comments by others to this web-page - 17 - to this web-page at time of posting.
Mississauga News - Apr. 28, 2010 - By Joseph Chin - email@example.com
Quit digging up dirt, Parrish told
With half-a-year left in Ward 6 councillor Carolyn Parrish's first term, it appears many of her colleagues have reached the end of the line with her behaviour.
The final straw was Parrish’s assertion, made to a newspaper earlier this week, that Mississauga spent like “drunken sailors” for years under Mayor Hazel McCallion’s leadership.
Today at City Council, McCallion and several veteran councillors tore a strip off Parrish, accusing her of singlehandedly damaging the City of Mississauga’s reputation and indulging in “revisionist” history.
In particular, they took issue with Parrish’s claim that Council for years raided the hydro reserve fund, which initially contained $340 million generated when Hydro Mississauga was converted to Enersource in 2000. That money, said Parrish, was meant to be spent on future capital projects. Instead, over the past decade, $170 million was spent on capital projects and $115 million was used to top up the operating budget so Council could boast about zero, or minimal, tax increases, she said.
Ward 9 councillor Pat Saito said Parrish has her facts wrong.
“(At that time), we agreed, as members of Council, that if we needed to offset tax increases in future years that we would use the interest, not the principal. I don’t think that money was wasted going into operating. That was what the money was put into reserve for – to equalize, to level, to reduce those tax impacts,” she said. “I believe it was the sensible thing to do, it was the smart thing to do and it was the fiscally responsible thing to do.”
Saito said only a couple of million dollars of the principal was transferred to the operating budget. She said Parrish was steering Council in the wrong direction with her statements to the media.
“We have spent the last four years doing nothing but bickering and accusations that we have done a terrible job. The City of Mississauga is one of the most respected cities in all of Canada. We have an excellent financial rating; we are bringing wonderful economic development (to the city)," said Saito. "These companies aren’t coming because we’ve made mistakes, they’re coming because this city has been managed very, very well."
Councillors Katie Mahoney, Nando Iannicca, Maja Prentice and Pat Mullin all took turns slamming Parrish.
“To talk about spending like drunken sailors when we’re the only municipality in this country that is debt-free – and it’s been debt-free for over three decades – I find it absolutely astounding,” said Mahoney.
Prentice said she wasn’t against Parrish “building a platform” for would-be councillors. However, she should provide accurate information.
“(Councillors) don’t deserve to have that type of opponent come forward based on bad facts. So I caution that this is not a politically correct way to deal with issues. Digging up dirt from the past is not the way to operate. This Council has never operated this way until the last three years.”
Parrish was unbowed.
“The mayor was quoted a couple of weeks ago saying if you’re not prepared for criticism you shouldn’t be in politics. So, I’m fully prepared for criticism, and I’m happily in politics,” she retorted.
She then went on the attack, reminding her colleagues they reversed themselves on the infrastructure levy when Council decided against the tax in this year’s budget. She said Council went against the City manager’s recommendation.
“We were too concerned in an election year,” she said.
Far from “rehashing the past and digging up dirt,” Parrish said she asked staff for the hydro reserve fund report since she was told the reason Enersource wasn’t doing well in its business ventures was because the City had stripped the money from the corporation to create the fund.
“I really find it fascinating when people say we only spent the interest,” said Parrish, who sits on the Enersource board of directors. “The interest if you left it alone...would have been $380 million and we would not have been looking right now at only $30 million left in the kitty at the end of this year.”
Comments by others - 17 - to this web-page at time of posting;
Canadians Apr 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Citizen of the Year leave Police Services Board 2nd post 6:27pm last one deleted
After his re-appointment in January, suddenly Jim Murray, the Mayor's bud, resigns. Wonder why? Is he preparing to declare his candidacy for a Ward or for Mayor .................. if Woloshyn's recent musings about replacement scenarios for Mayor Hazel are correct, maybe. Is the blogging war being waged here, attacking Parrish and others, a distraction from the shipster's crew?
Canadians Apr 30, 2010 6:25 PM
MUSE THIRD POST last two deleted
You deserve a metal. When the Judge wades through all of the evidence you have piled up on his desk, hopefully the shipp will be sunk. About 400 shippsters showed up at the Mayor's rally; a few bashers rant and delete blogs here; about 700000 other Mississauganites are sorta watching. Keep up the good work Muse; sink the shipp. Time 6:25 pm
MISSISSAUGAWATCH Apr 30, 2010 2:32 PM
@ anneke (apologies, cut off) first sending
The destruction of an alternate voice. And in my case (feel free to laugh) a Mayoral candidate. Anyway. Fully expect this to be deleted as well. Just posting for documentation purposes.
MISSISSAUGAWATCH Apr 30, 2010 2:30 PM
@ anneke first sending
My posts (and I tested by varying the nature of those comments) WERE relevant. Notice that "The Mississauga Moose Apr 29, 2010 4:56 PM HI EVERYONE! I'm new to this forum and looking forward to meeting interesting people and making new friends!! " is still up with 4 Agrees. I will be reconstructing all the comments just to demonstrate the massive UNtagging that went on here. ConcernedResident's comments attacking me as "delusional" remain up. Yet I've not once hit a single "Offensive". Take a look at Page 2. ConcernedResident's attack on Canadians with "Typical slop from those who don't like to be challenged. I see you figured out how to un-stick the caps button though. Congrats on that. I am always amazed how those who want to ram a single message down our throats." is still up. Whereas my observations that gang-deleting (UNtagging) of my comments (ALL of them, reposted as many as nine times and deleted as quickly as under four minutes) also ensured a "single message" and worse. The destruction of an alternat
anneke Apr 30, 2010 1:59 PM
Mississauga council has not done a bad job
Mississauga has come out of the recession without debt, with growth and minimal tax increases. I have seen a 30% increase in property taxes in my city over the last 5 years. And for you commenters, read the guidelines. If your post is not relevant to the story than it doesn't belong here.
* Agree 1
Uatu Apr 30, 2010 11:14 AM
Keep proving my point, I love it
Just reposted several posts. The only way they won't stay up is for the Mississauga News to ban me. I've switched to putting repost counts in the titles. Click away, fools. I see why you are deleting these latest. You people really are offended by truth, aren't you? You're so funny.
Uatu Apr 30, 2010 11:14 AM
Concerning "offensive" [Repost 9 due to censor trolls]
I actually like to get one or two offensives to something that plainly isn't, because it shows how low some people will stoop. On the other hand, it is perfectly understandable that some people will mark personal attacks "offensive." ConcernedResident has been engaging in such attacks for a while now; Mantis also to a lesser extent. If they get deleted for three offensives, that would be a shame. I really want their posts to remain for all to see. They're a terrific asset. I'm tired of explaining to them why this is so, but it's hilarious watching them do this.
Uatu Apr 30, 2010 11:14 AM
Who's deluded? [Repost 9 due to censor trolls]
Delusion: a belief that, though false, has been surrendered to and accepted by the whole mind as a truth. It is a sign of delusion to disagree with statements of proven fact. It is an even stronger sign to find such facts offensive to the point of removing them. The biggest tipoff that you are deluded, however, is exhibited when someone explains to you that denying facts and censoring them is delusionary behaviour, and that your behaviour is being recorded to show this, but you persist in engaging in the behaviour anyway.
* Agree 1
The Mississauga Moose Apr 29, 2010 4:56 PM
I'm new to this forum and looking forward to meeting interesting people and making new friends!!
* Agree 4
ConcernedResident Apr 29, 2010 3:23 PM
You have just confirmed how absolutely delusional you are. Do you honestly believe that it is only your comments (and your pet boy, Uatu's) that get erased? Videotaping a website is beyond any sane or rational thought. But then that is what happens to irrational folk, when they know the masses are not buying their "message". You scream louder, and longer and sink to irrational thoughts and methodologies. And BTW, I don't EVER think I said I would "reveal my identity at election time and the debates". If you can recall that, you should also be able to recall that I think it is wrong to have a comment deleted, unless it is truly offensive (i.e. slanderous, etc). That being said, I'm not going to get my shorts in a knot because you and 2 friends have marked my comments offensive.
* Agree 7 Offensive 2
ConcernedResident Apr 28, 2010 10:52 PM
Typical slop from those who don't like to be challenged. I see you figured out how to un-stick the caps button though. Congrats on that. I am always amazed how those who want to ram a single message down our throats, have all the "cliche" terminology, and verbiage. Talk about bullying.
* Agree 6 Disagree 1 Offensive 1
Canadians Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM
Justice Douglas Cunningham will get the picture
"I found experiencing it all highly unsettling if for no other reason than I watched One person ganged up on by the others for being "negative". That's how bullies operate. I trust the footage of the meeting will provide more enlightenment @ the Inquiry. But look at things from a different perspective. If you want to demonstrate to the Judge just how badly these bullies behave, what Parrish demonstrated/drew out is actually the perfect set-up, and the Mayor and her minions swallowed it hook-line and stinker. Self-basting political bile. A kodak moment; a moment in time; an exposed negative. You get the picture? Thanks 'ConcernedResident' you've been the most perfectly, vitriolic mouthy Mini-Me; you passed the acid test with perfect bile, a mini-metaphor of how the bullies of Mississauga conduct their affairs ---- a metaphor Justice Cunningham will understand perfectly.
* Agree 1 Disagree 8
tankerone Apr 28, 2010 8:09 PM
Quit Digging Up Dirt?
I get the impression that it is not dirt she keeps digging up! I thought it has another name (fertilizer).
* Agree 3 Disagree 2
ConcernedResident Apr 28, 2010 6:53 PM
So let me get this straight. The mouth that roared is upset that we took $115 million from account #1 and used if for something for something that was supposed to come from account #2. If we left the $115 mil in account #1, we would have had to take $115 mil from account #2. Or, as the left leaners love, just add it to the tax bill. What people like the mouth and Canadians (who can't figure out how to turn the caps off his/her computer, let alone make a coherent comment) just don't get is that there is one one taxpayer. It does not matter what "account" it comes from. It's my money. But you can relax Canadians, your double digit property tax increases are coming, especially if the mouth becomes mayor.
* Agree 2 Disagree 5 Offensive 1
Canadians Apr 28, 2010 6:13 PM
CITY LEAVES A DROP IN THE BUCKET..
@ ENERSOURCE. AT LEAST THE PRIME MINISTER KNOWS HOW MYTHISSAUGA'S VERSION OF 'SURVIVOR MAN' WORKS. EMPTY THE BUCKET AND THROW DIRT AT A COUNCILLOR WHO POINTS OUT THE OBVIOUS.
* Agree 4 Disagree 3
Canadians Apr 28, 2010 6:07 PM
BUCKETS OF CASH SCOOPED FROM ENERSOURCE
SAILORS ENERGETICALLY SWAB THE DECK OF THE SHIPP WITH ONLY A FEW DROPS LEFT IN THE BUCKET! I GUESS THE PM IS TOO LATE TO JOIN IN. HEH, DOES THIS CONFIRM THAT ENERSOURCE IS A 'CASH COW'? DOES THIS MEAN MY ENERGY BILLS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR NEW CURBS AND GUTTERS IN PAT SAITO'S WARD?
* Agree 2 Disagree 2
Canadians Apr 28, 2010 5:58 PM
BUT it's OK for the Mayor to trash the PM's cash as a 'drop in the bucket'
Parrish said,"The interest if you left it alone...would have been $380 million and we would not have been looking right now at only $30 million left in the kitty at the end of this year.” MY POINT EXACTLY. Robbing Peter to Pay Paul is management by MYTH.
* Agree 2 Disagree 2
[COMMENTS BY DON B. - ]
Your Financial Donations are Greatly Appreciated